Talk:David Mallett Jr. House

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move to David Mallett Jr. House Labattblueboy (talk) 19:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David, Jr. Mallett House → David Mallett, Jr., House — Move to corrected name. Markvs88 called my attention to this. A redirect there now replaced a duplicative page, and previous edits prevent it from being moved by a non-admin. This older page with its history should be moved to corrected name. NRHP's NRIS database names are comma-convoluted; we usually unwrap them. I happen to prefer commas before and after "Jr."; also okay would be no commas, but one comma is wrong by grammar rules. doncram (talk) 01:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, title should me David Mallett, Jr. House (one comma before Jr.). It's how formatting is conducted for names involving the suffix Jr on wikipedia (see Lon Chaney, Jr., Hank Williams, Jr., Ken Griffey, Jr., etc ). I would also Support David Mallett Jr. House (no commas) or even Mallett House. I'm Opposed to David Mallett, Jr., House because its an orgy of punctuation.--Labattblueboy (talk) 13:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Those examples such as "Lon Chaney, Jr." don't apply as they have no following word. I found guidance on this once but can't find it now in the Wikipedia Manual of Style. The guidance, when "Jr." or "Sr." appears within a longer phrase, is to use 2 commas or no commas. Using no commas is a bit more modern trendy, i perceive, and these are historic old places, so i rather prefer traditional 2 comma style. I interpret your comment as a vote for "David Mallet Jr. House" which is also okay by me. --doncram (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My personal preference is no commas becuase it produces a nice clean title. I was just presenting a number of options I see as acceptable.--14:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Support I support the move, but I also agree with Labattblueboy that it should be to David Mallett Jr. House as it's the simplest. I don't really like David Mallett, Jr., House since I doubt anyone would actually put the commas in when searching. I also don't like Mallett House as much since it isn't the full name of the site. Markvs88 (talk) 15:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another consideration is what is actually used in the sources. The NRHP nomination form source (author Jan Cunningham) shows "David Mallett, Jr. House" which should show as title in the reference but I think is wrong grammatically, and we do not have to use that. It also shows "The Mallett House". Seems votes are mostly for no commas, which is okay by me as grammatical although departing from more common 2-comma punctuation for these historic places listed in the NRHP. Redirects can be made from all alternatives. I will edit lede in article now to reflect zero comma treatment. --doncram (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.