Talk:Danish phonology

It is requested that one or more audio files be included in this article to improve its quality.
Please see Wikipedia:Requested recordings for more on this request.

Languages C‑class

	Language portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Languages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of languages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LanguagesWikipedia:WikiProject LanguagesTemplate:WikiProject Languageslanguage articles
C	This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Linguistics: Phonetics Mid‑importance

	Linguistics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Linguistics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of linguistics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LinguisticsWikipedia:WikiProject LinguisticsTemplate:WikiProject LinguisticsLinguistics articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Phonetics Task Force.

Denmark High‑importance

	Denmark portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Denmark, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Denmark on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DenmarkWikipedia:WikiProject DenmarkTemplate:WikiProject DenmarkDenmark articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Archives

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

This page has archives. Sections older than 360 days may be automatically archived by when more than 4 sections are present.

Diphthongs?[edit]

... is something I'm missing here.--79.100.144.23 (talk) 12:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to Norwegian and Swedish?[edit]

The phonology of Danish is similar to that of the other closely related Scandinavian languages, Swedish and Norwegian, but it also has distinct features setting it apart.

How is Danish phonology similar to those of the other two languages? In a meaningful way, of course … yeah, all three of them have consonants and vowels and lexical stress, but, you know … 2A02:3030:808:A8D1:5E4:87DB:152B:494B (talk) 11:41, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that there should be sources comparing those languages more explicitly which could be worked into the article. However, it's an unfortunate first sentence for other reasons, as that's not where comparison is most relevant. Replayful (talk) 11:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Capital letters?[edit]

In the “Vowel” section, under the “Morphophoneme–phoneme–phone correspondence” chart, there are the following: |ɛ| after |r| and before |∅, D| means /ɛ/ or /ɑ/ – phonetically [æ⁓ɑ], which are reälised [a⁓ɑ̈]. eg: “r**æ**kke”. ⸨[ɑ] (⟦ɑ̈⟧) are in innovative variëties⸩ … and … |a| after ≠ |r| and before |A| means /a/ – phonetically [æ], which is reälised [æ]. eg: “m**a**lle”

Under typical (archi)phonemic or natural class capital letter usage (as wildcards) (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet#Capital_letters), ⫽D⫽ means {alveölar consonant} and ⫽A⫽ means {open vowel}; however, the examples given do not concur with the listed tautosyllabic environment

So what do |D| and |A| mean in this article? Anterrobang (talk) 17:39, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"D" is for dorsal (palatal, velar or uvular), "A" for alveolar. On a device with a mouse pointer, the {{abbr}}-template creates a tootip, but it is not visible on mobile devices. @Nardog: We might have an accessibility problem here. –Austronesier (talk) 19:21, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why there are two different phonetic symbols pointing to the same IPA symbol?[edit]

I made a change which got reverted: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danish_phonology&oldid=1138081032

To my knowledge, Danish distinguishes these two sounds (ɔ and ɒ). Why are they pointing to the same IPA symbol article then? Radrow (talk) 09:40, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have articles about IPA symbols, only ones about sounds. Symbols representing phonemes often don't match their values on the IPA chart because the IPA has only so many letters and because languages change. /ɔ/ is described to be [ɒ̽] so Open back rounded vowel is about the closest article to point to. Nardog (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

/ɒ/ is a marginal phoneme that occurs in about 5 words, if I remember correctly. If you ignore those words, /ɔ/ is the only short (phonetic) open back vowel in Danish, which is also true from the historical viewpoint (both /ɒ/ and /ɒː/ ultimately come from /ɔ(ː)r/). Sol505000 (talk) 07:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The phoneme table is full of WP:easter eggs, since we link to the (default) phonetic value of these phonemes. While technically correct (I mean, we could even link Mark Hale's infamous Marshallese wingdings to their associated unmarked phones), is this actually a good idea? I'd suggest to remove the links in the phoneme table, and add them in the narrow IPA column of the following table. –Austronesier (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]