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Map in infobox

The purpose is to provide the reader with a clear, accessible map where they can locate the city quickly. The dozen other cities are merely a distraction from that purpose. There's no need for those other cities to be there; they don't help the reader find Copenhagen's location. If they wanted to know the relative locations of all the major cities/ports in Denmark, they would consult Geography of Denmark or List of cities in Denmark by population. Compare this with other articles about major cities; London, Berlin, Stockholm, etc. Their maps provide the reader with the topic's location, immediately and clearly. -- Hazhk Talk to me 15:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I can't find any previous discussion about which map should be used. --Hazhk Talk to me 15:42, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Ian and I decided that seeing Copenhagen in relation to the other Danish cities was more useful than a single pin map not putting it in context geographically, not to mention it is in capitals with a large dot for a capital city rather than pin. I'd argue actually for capital cities the map with it in capitals in comparison to other major cities is more desirable than a pin, but that would need general discussion at WP:Cities. Also read WP:LEAD, the lead should summarise the article. You removed valuable information because it was "replicated in the article" but that defeats the object of what it's there for in the first place. It's there to provide an overview of the whole article and repeat what is said in the main body in a condensed summary. Why are you editing this so much anyway when it's already GA and there's thousands of Danish articles desperately needing bare minimum work?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:49, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Look I'm not going to challenge the map. I really don't want to edit war over something that I guess is relatively unimportant to the article. However I do understand the purpose of a lead, and that is to summarise the article. Replicating text verbatim from the main body is not a 'condensed summary'. I think a list of all universities/colleges is just excessive. A condensed summary would be something akin to, "Copenhagen has over 94,000 students enrolled in its six largest universities and institutions" - the six institutions are then listed below in the appropriate section. Or should we list every museum when we talk about museums in the lead? Do you think the lead benefit from a list of all hospitals and health centres? The lead mentions neoclassical architecture; why not list a dozen or so buildings built in this architectural style? ah of course, this would make the lead too long and detailed
I have contributed to other Denmark-related articles. My edits to this article have been limited mostly to reinstating many of the images that were removed a month ago- the images that were present during the GA review. -- Hazhk Talk to me 17:13, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Providing a few examples is informative. If you don't then the information is vague. The lead is supposed to literally inform the reader about the article and the subject without having to read it in its entirety. You could probably remove two examples of the least notable unis out of those given but to remove them all is problematic. There's too many notable buildings to even think about mentioning a lot of them in the intro, but you could name a few further examples.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:17, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

infobox - city

The figures in the infobox "city" actually is the far smaller municipality. Whithin the boundries of the municipality some 673.000 people lives, as Frederiksberg municipality is entirely surrounded by Copenhagen municipality. The former "Hovedstaden" - The Capital, also included Gentofte (with around 74,000 inhabitants). Also Tårnby's 42.000 could be included to "the City" - a total of 778.500. Otherwise I think the word "city" should be changed to "municipality". An other matter - Are we sure the Wind Mill Park and other areas at sea isn't included in the 86 km2 area of the municipality ? From Google Maps, some parts of Øresund and the entire harbour seems to be included. Also, DST are rather vague in their comments, (reg 2011-13) are "streets" included in "roads" for instance ? Boeing720 (talk) 23:26, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Lord Mayor ?

I know that Overborgmesteren usually translates into "the Lord Mayor", but the Lord Mayor of London hardly compares to this office. What about using "the Supreme Mayor" instead ? Just a thought. Boeing720 (talk) 11:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this is not a lord position just a supreme or high mayor, but we have to follow the general terms used elsewhere, and that appears to be Lord Mayor. Unless you can find an external place clearly stating it is incorrect, we are bound by no original research, and can not improve the translation ourselves. Carewolf (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Here is a link to an english page by the "Lord Mayor" himself: http://subsite.kk.dk/sitecore/content/Subsites/CityOfCopenhagen/SubsiteFrontpage/CityCouncil/CouncilAndCommittees/TheCityCouncil/TheFinanceCommittee/Lordmayor.aspx Carewolf (talk) 12:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, like I wrote, I was aware of the formal translation. But "Overborgmestere" should be translated to Supreme or High Mayor. By the use of quotation marks, "Supreme Mayor" the OR isn't violated - atleast I think so now. (after have read a long discussion between others on the topic, regarding party names in article talk-page about the 2014 Swedish General Election. However since Overborgmesteren himself uses "Lord Mayor" I fully agree with You. (Since I stongly doubt that he wants to be compared to Lord Mayor of London, perhaps someone should alert Frank Jensen about the translation though...) :) Boeing720 (talk) 23:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Elephant enclosure

Both the image added by Hazhk 01:40, 25 November 2014‎ and the picutre is replaced show the old elephant not the new compound designed by Norman Foster. --Klausok (talk) 09:01, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Timeline of Copenhagen

What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

IPA/pronunciation

The article should include the British pronunciation also sourced from Dictionary.com /ˌkəʊpənˈheɪɡən; -ˈhɑː-; ˈkəʊpənˌheɪ-; -ˌhɑː-/ 122.106.177.188 (talk) 01:11, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Precipitation color

What is the reason for the ongoing edit war? Is the precipitation color an indication of something? Is there a standard? Oslo, Stockholm and London all have green, which would seem to indicate that green is the standard. On the other hand, the default is blue, wich points in the opposite direction. --Klausok (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

The colour can be either way but to change it, there should be consensus. This IP user has a history of edit warring over the colours and is circumventing his block by persisting with this. That is the issue. Air.light (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

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Crime section

There has been attempts to add a crime section to the article, with details of some gang fights in the summer of 2017. While the content was originally written with an unsuitable right wing tilt, that can be fixed, and I am not opposed to the events being on WP as they have documentation, but if this article on Copenhagen has a Crime section it should first and primarily state dominant facts about crime in Copenhagen and only secondarily notable events on the subject, anything else is undue weight. An event that doesn't even have a name or separate article, doesn't really belong here in an overview. What do the rest of you think? Carewolf (talk) 22:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I concur; these specific events do not seem to be consistent the content of the rest of the article in that they are based on a specific set of events, without stating the importance of the events in a historical context. Perhaps a section on overall crime rates might be acceptable, but what has been added seems not to be focused on the nature of crime in the city, but a recent event or series of recent events, which are only tangently related to the subject of the article. Jonahman10 (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
it is a crime section relevant in the page of Copenhagen? I Think it is not necessary.--AlfaRocket (talk) 18:53, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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Better København pronunciation

Can someone replace the audio with a decent version? Key requested features:

  • Native Danish speaker from Copenhagen
  • Decent microphone
  • Decent audio quality (current version has the quality of a 1950s landline)
  • Adult voice without speech impediments of any kind
  • Slow and careful pronunciation as native are not likely to hear this audio clip

Baka toroi (talk) 00:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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Climate

There is a disagreement between a couple of editors over the climate section, it should be discussed. --Devokewater (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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