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Did you know... that the Church of St Porphyrius, a Greek Orthodox church at the site where St Porphyrius of Gaza was buried, is the oldest active church in Gaza City?

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Messy[edit]

To expand the history section, can anyone explain the messy relationship between the Great Mosque of Gaza (originally a Eudoxia/later Saint Pohrphyrius church/turned mosque/turned church/turned mosque), Katib al-Wilaya Mosque, and this current Church. The three buildings are located within maximum 200 meters distance area. A source trying to explain the relationship is very messy. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Seems the current church was built from scratch in the 12th century? But how was the saint's buried body transferred there? Makeandtoss (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

said to be the third oldest church in the world.[edit]

I think this claim and the reference supporting it should be removed.

The current building of the Church of Saint Porphyrius was erected in the 1150s or 1160s, and even the previous building on the site is given as being at oldest from AD 425.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_church_buildings lists many older churches than AD 425, and the source given for the 'third oldest church' claim is a Business Insider article about the modern war, not a source about ecclesiastical buildings or the history of churches.

The church is clearly very old and special, but it isn't third oldest, and I feel that specific Business Insider article shouldn't be cited for historical claims about the antiquity of the church since it is not authoritative on that subject. It makes the whole article look hyperbolic and so less credible. Bunnnnnnn (talk) 19:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I can find no source prior to the Business Insider article stating it's third. Even defining the age by the church that was first built there, in 425, and it's status as an active church, Mar Sarkis monastery (325 at latest) the Church of the Nativity (~326) and Trier Cathedral (~340s) are easily older. 67.170.124.3 (talk) 07:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I am astonished that the "third-oldest church" claim has lingered so long. St. Porphyrius appears nowhere when DuckDuckGoing "oldest churches". (This seems the most reliable result. However, they freely take pictures from commons; I cannot tell if they merely regurgitate our List of oldest church buildings alluded to above.) Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 00:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]