Talk:Christian electronic dance music/Archive 1

CEDM
CEDM
Stylistic origins	Christian Pop, Christian Rap, Dubstep, EDM, Reggae Christian Music, Remix
Cultural origins	00s, Remix culture
Typical instruments	Computer, Synth, Vocals, Drum machine
Subgenres
	Christian Electronic Pop, Christian Trance

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Archive 1

DO NOT DELETE! IMPROVE INSTEAD!

Please dont remove this article! It is under construction! Instead make yourself useful and get me some references! ;P JK (just kiddin) AKA Casey Rollins (talk) 21:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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CEDM, or Christian Electronic Dance Music, is a genre of Christian music. Notable artists include Bryson Price, Capital Kings and Soul Glo Activatur.

Styles and Derivatives

There are generally two styles of CEDM; Christian Electronic and Christian Dubstep.

Christian Dubstep

Bryson Price is one of the main Christian Dubstep figures. He is heavily influenced by Skrillex<ref>{{cite web|last1=W|first1=Chris|title=Bryson Price | Electro Pulse | Indie Vision Music|url=http://www.indievisionmusic.com/2011/09/19/bryson-price/|website=Indie Vision Music|publisher=Indie Vision Music|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref>. Other artists have entered the subgenre too, such as fe5a, Matthew Parker, and more. <ref name=Shea>{{cite web|last1=Shea|first1=Matt|title=Christian Dubstep is Kind of a Big Deal|url=http://noisey.vice.com/blog/christian-dubstep-is-kind-of-a-big-deal|website=Noisey|publisher=Noisey: Music by Vice|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref>

Christian Electronic artists such as Capital Kings, Owl City and Kye Kye have more of a Pop sound. Also a surprisingly large amount of artists from this subgenre tend not to take kindly to the Christian Music label<ref name=froch>{{cite web|last1=Frochtzwajg|first1=Jonathan|title=Do Portland-area electro-pop act Kye Kye a favor: never call them a Christian band|url=http://www.oregonlive.com/music/index.ssf/2014/01/embrace_portland-area_electro-.html|website=Oregon Live|publisher=The Oregonian|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref><ref name=viv>{{cite web|last1=Vivaldo|first1=Josephine|title=Interview: Owl City's Adam Young and His God-Inspired Music|url=http://www.christianpost.com/news/interview-owl-citys-adam-young-and-how-his-music-comes-from-god-51554/|website=Christian Post|publisher=Christian Post|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref>, similar to notable rappers Andy Mineo and Lecrae.

Some CEDM songs sound very repetitive. These are called Christian Trance. Good examples of this are Resurface Instrumental by Karac and It's a Trap by DJ Official, though It's a Trap could qualify as Christian Dubstep.

Critical Response

While CEDM isn't very popular, many Christians long for Christian Dubstep and other CEDM derivitaves.

Capital King's debut album was highly praised for its upbeat style.<ref name=frans>{{cite web|last1=Francesco|first1=J. J.|title=Capital Kings Artist Profile|url=http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/artistdetail.php?artist_id=4055|website=New Release Tuesday|publisher=New Release Tuesday|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref> Their album impacted the Christian music culture so much that now many artists have created CEDM sangs, including Mandisa (With Overcomer and Joy Unspeakable) and tobyMac<ref name=bleep>{{cite web|title=tobyMac talks his new tour, DC talk and more|url=http://bleepmag.com/2014/05/16/toby-mac-talks-his-new-tour-dc-talk-and-more/|website=BleepMag|publisher=Bleep Magazine|accessdate=18 November 2014}}</ref> (with Me Without You, Mac Daddy and Unstoppable).

AKA Casey Rollins (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Done. I made a few additional tone and formatting adjustments, and certainly further improvement would still be good — but yes, that's much better than what was happening before, so I've moved it into place and removed the page protection. Thanks for the effort! Bearcat (talk) 22:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

STOP EDITING MY PAGE!

Westdog01 made this article, and I am tired of people ruining everything I make. I am the guy that made it. Don't remove anything I edit onto this article. I MADE IT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westdog01 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Westley, thank you for your contributions. Unfortunately, it appears that you are under the wrong impression that you can "own" an article on Wikipedia. Please remember that Wikipedia is free for anyone to edit. Might I suggest that you read the Introduction page so you understand why people are changing this page without your consent? — SkyLined (talk) 11:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

You'll notice at the bottom of every edit page is a statement that reads:

By saving changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.

In short, you don't own the page. See WP:OWN. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:49, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

And for the record, I looked at the edit history, and it does not appear as though you have made any edits that were not immediately reverted, unless you were editing using a different user name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:09, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 20 June 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Christian electronic dance music. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

CEDM → Christian Electronic Dance Music – Article names don't usually use acronyms. Contemporary Christian music is not at CCM and it's better known as the latter. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I feel we should keep it CEDM. CEDM is pretty much the official name. Christian Electronic Dance Music is kinda... Well, long. --Westdog01 (talk) 23:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's not the official name. Looking at the articles used as reference, none mention CEDM. [1] mentions "Christian dance music", "electronic dance music" is mentioned at [2]. As mentioned no article at CCM and I'll add no article at EDM, but there is one a contemporary Christian music (already linked) and one at electronic dance music. I think the choice is simple. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Support - support move, it's clearly the term supported in the sources cited. Flat Out (talk) 05:02, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Support: full names should be used unless acronyms are preponderant, which in this case doesn't seem to be the case. Best, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Why are the words all capitalized? — Jeraphine ^(talk) 10:40, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- Good call. Should not be. It should be Christian electronic dance music. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Support move to Christian electronic dance music. Capitalization is not required as this is a musical genre. Sovereign /^Sentinel 13:17, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Unconstructive edits

@3family6:, @Westdog01:, @AKA Casey Rollins: and @Bearcat: This is the most recent edit. I pinged you four because you have made important edits in the past and I would like a sanity check to determine reverting is needed or not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree that a revert is needed, but to what? The previous versions aren't much better.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 04:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Interesting point. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me and making me aware of the edits. @202.141.208.138: I appreciate the edits but I want to keep the article content the way that it was, or improve it. The edit took content away from it. I did like the changes made to the infobox though. Eventually we should add sections about the various subgenres of CEDM and discuss the various changes major CEDM artists have gone through, such as Capital Kings breaking up and Matthew Parker's alias Twilight Meadow. AKA Casey Rollins Talk With Casey 20:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)