Talk:Cayenne pepper/Archive 1

Cayenne in beauty products

This website should note that it is beginning to be used in these new ways: American pharmaceutical researchers plan on putting it in face washes to stimulate circulation. Japanese researchers have found that Cayenne stimulates hair growth and therefore it will be used in hair growth products. These topics are all over the internet.

Oh, and, must you use that picture of chicken marinating in Cayenne Pepper? :P. I am sure there are better photos out there of its culinary uses. What about a photo of it being harvested? Perhaps it's just me, but seeing the raw, unfinished chicken appendages made me shudder - instead of making me think "Yum! I'd like to try a dish with Cayenne Pepper!" What about a photo of a beautifully garnished meal known for using lots of Cayenne? -- Just a thought!

Prison Break

In a recent episode of Prison Break, Michael used cayenne pepper to 'seal up capillaries' on a wound. Could someone look into that.

Yes, this is true. Someone once sealed up a gunshot wound. It stopped the bleeding enough before the paramedics showed up, which saved his life.

I was thinking there should be something about its apparent bleeding-stopping action; I don't think it is any more or less 'proven' than the other medical uses which are included in the article.

I do not know how it works, but it is true. I am a cook in Portugal and it is a well known tradition to use pepper, or cayenne pepper to stop bleedings when someone cuts himself. It does hurt for a while, but it works. This is not very used in the current days, but the "old school" cooks still pass this knowledge to the younger generations.

I was interested to learn that Culpeper wrote about Guinea Pepper aka Cayanne/Cayenne Pepper in his Complete Herbal from 1814. He claims many uses for it, from culinary to remedial, including on this page as a tooth whitener. It is facinating to think that people in 1814 were rubbing pepper onto their teeth.

"...its name comes from the city of Cayenne in French Guiana."

"The name is derived from the Tupi word kyinha, literally 'hot pepper'."

Make up your minds... Based on the second sentence, I sort of doubt the first one... Like, what, people named a city after the word for peppers and then named peppers after the city?

Also, it seems like Ceyenne pepper refers to a red fruit (i.e. the red thing in the picture), not necessarilly a powder as the first sentence states.

Yes, I noticed that as well (about the dual nomenclature). Guess it's time to axe one, and Cayenne had nothing to say about the Tupi that I saw. Fëaluinix 09:59, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Well. concerning this, I changed it to refer to the entire pepper - the powder should be listed under cayenne chili powder or cayenne powder. From my understanding, it is common to use the entire pepper (i make a lot of kung pao chicken) with the stems cut off.

Heh, heh; writing 12 years later, actually it seems the second one was more correct; people either named the city after the peppers, or after the river which was named after the peppers, and the peppers were never named after the city. Leo 86.83.56.115 (talk) 02:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

annuum or frutescens?

To the best of my knowledge, Cayenne pepper is a cultivar of c. annuum, see for example http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_cayenne.html --BW Talk 12:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but the cayenne is a cultivar of Capsican frutescens. Dave is not really an authority on the biology side of things. KevinTernes 23:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

....actually I have been looking around lately. It seems that most references on the web would say that Cayenne is C. annuum. But many also say Capsican frutescens. I wish we could get an authoritative answer from a horticulturist.KevinTernes 14:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Mayan's discovery

I think there should be a mention that the Maya Indians used it for healing and digestive assistance. Unforetunately, I cannot find a paper or historical weblink on it. I only seen it on the Discovery Channel. http://www.ohii.org/health_secrets_of_cayenne.php The closes link I have. Thanks, CarpD 10/30/2006

Blood Stimulant

I deleted a line about cayenne being scientifically proven as the most effective 'blood stimulant'.

If someone knows that this is in fact, accurate, please explain what a blood stimulant is, and replace the phrase with citation. It is not sufficient to claim "scientifically proven" anything, without a citation or at least an explanation of some sort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.226.46 (talk) 20:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

> I've read many times that it can abort a heart attack in progress and I've read many stores about it doing that. If someone is inclined to do the research and add it, I'm not, but the info is out there.142.165.246.187 22:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

>RANDOM NOTE FROM A PASSER-BY< : http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/cayenne.htm Says here it stimulates all organs. Read up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.131.44.75 (talk) 23:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, actually, use of cayenne pepper pills as a herbal supplement for weight loss has been "scientifically proven" to do quite the opposite: cause a heart attack! See: Sayin MR, et al. A case of acute myocardial infarction due to the use of cayenne pepper pills. Wiener Klinische Wochenschrift-The Central European Journal of Medicine (2012) 124:285–287 Leo 86.83.56.115 (talk) 02:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

RM section re: other uses

I took out this section

Other Uses Cayenne pepper has also been used to keep warm in cold temperatures by sprinkling in socks, boots, gloves or mittsHowever, the actual effectiveness of this has been debated. If you have sensitive skin, beware you might develop redness or a rash.

it seems dubious, full of weasel words, and the cite on it was a forum post. Also not worded well. CredoFromStart ^talk 20:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Question:

Why isn't cayenne pepper used in Emergency rooms nationwide for trauma victims and heart attack victims?

Why is there no mention of cayenne pepper as a means of stopping bleeding? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.76.30 (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

There are no studies verifying either claim. If anything, research suggests that cayenne pepper is dangerous to give to heart attack patients, and only serves as a coagulant in the same manner any cellulose-based powder would. 208.105.100.96 (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Squirrels

Some people use cayenne pepper to stop squirrels from eating their fruit off of their trees. I've tried it and it works. Add plz. 74.178.59.50 (talk) 13:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't think that this should be added to the article, though this is a very interesting fact and many people may find it useful ) Healthycare (talk) 14:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Law Enforcement

These are the peppers used in "Pepper spray" by police and some civilians as personal defense. It is sprayed in the suspect's face. Powerzilla (talk) 19:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Citations

I am going to add several citations in the Medicinal Use section within the next few days unless I find time to do this sooner. If you feel that anything should be cited, please feel free to leave a message here or on my talk page. Thank you. Healthycare (talk) 14:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Please use sources that meet WP:MEDRS for all medical claims. --Ronz (talk) 15:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed it. Besides much of it being unsourced and the need for sources meeting WP:MEDRS, much of it wasn't specifically about cayenne. --Ronz (talk) 17:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

While the main medicinal properties of cayenne pepper are derived from capsaicin, cayenne pepper has most healing properties as capsaicin has. Thus, most of the sources were searched on the resources listed on WP:MEDRS#Choosing_sources and all have capsaicin as one of the main points in the research. In addition, I was going to include this source University of Maryland Medical Center as another reference. Though it's not listed on WP:MEDRS, I believe the educational institution can be a trusted resource. Am I wrong? Healthycare (talk) 18:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

The UMM article has a medical disclaimer at the end.

Information on capsaicin should be included in its own article. --Ronz (talk) 18:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, thank you for your comments. They are really helpful. I'll see if I can add anything of value to the capsaicin article or maybe I'll manage to find any useful information specifically on cayenne. Healthycare (talk) 20:54, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Where did you find the information that you added in Nutrition Facts? That needs sources and that type of information is much easier to verify.

Health claims are much harder to include properly because of WP:NPOV issues, which WP:MEDRS helps address. --Ronz (talk) 21:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I will add the references within the next couple of days. I'd appreciate if you leave the text at least for 2 days. Thank you.healthyBob (talk) 12:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I found a reference and updated the content based upon it. --Ronz (talk) 16:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Medicinal use

Is capsicum the only contributing factor to its madicinal use? Could a pepper with a higher Scoville rating do the same?Ron Peck Aragon (talk) 01:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Citation updates

I've updated, corrected, expanded, and standardized all the source citations. (Many were just bare links that could leave no trace over time. Some had republished information inaccurately credited; I've moved the republishers' names to "publisher" and credited the original works.) I've done only a bit of checking of sources against the text they're cited for; more is probably needed. I moved the USDA/NDL reference to "Further reading" because the current content of the article includes no direct information that appears to be in the originally cited locations (pages 1 & 68, the former of which made no mention of cayenne or Capiscum).

There's still more work that should be done. Several sources may not be up to WP:RELY standards, and much info still has no citation (e.g., some of the alternative names). The section on nutrition is just crying for scientific sources (for which the USDA source may have been an incomplete piece). I might not get to it, since this was just a drive-by edit for me—checking out excuses to indulge in Popeyes Chicken & Biscuits later today!—that turned into a sourcing project. Anyone interested in pursuing the nutrition info might dig up connections between cayenne/Capsicum, capsaicin, flavonoids, and the research mentioned on page 1 (page 3 in the PDF) of the USDA/NDL report. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I did some quick cleanup of some self-published sources used inappropriately. --Ronz (talk) 19:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Cayenne pepper stops bleeding?

Some information that might need adding, but dont know if there are any better citations.

'So you have a cut or gash that needs attention. Find the pepper. Take a little of the powder and apply it directly into the bleeding area (obviously if it’s a really serious cut – don’t. Just seek medical attention…). Sit back and wait. The bleeding should stop within about ten to fifteen seconds.'

http://new9.boredombash.com/how-to-stop-bleeding/

Seb-Gibbs (talk) 09:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Questionable reference to cite?

I just noticed this... It's it seriously a valid cite? > Westerterp-Plantenga, MS; Reinbach, HC; Smeets, A; Martinussen, T; Møller, P (June 2009). "Effects of capsaicin, green tea and CH-19 sweet pepper on appetite and energy intake in humans in negative and positive energy balance.". Clinical Nutrition 28 (3).

Sounds like a pseudoscience paper, which iirc are banned from general use here, but I'm on my phone so I can't check. --77.75.106.60 (talk) 23:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

scabies treatment

some people attempt to use this, (mixed with water) to treat scabies. i didn't look it up on any medical site, but i found it suggested by this site http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Scabies/1421093 and i think it's worth mentioning here because i have scabies right now and i'm begging for affordable solutions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.130.17 (talk) 17:10, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Section: "In beverages"

This is pretty fringe, and the refs are trash. 70.30.100.138 (talk) 04:34, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

There seem to be some hits on Google for cayenne beverage. Maybe one of them discusses it in depth? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:18, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Split proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

This article should be split into two different articles Cayenne pepper (cultivar group) and Cayenne powder (spice, not necessarily made from the eponymous cultivar). The latter can be linked to d:Q52075540. --Comedora (talk) 06:10, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose We have all of one line in this article about cayenne powder: "Cayenne powder may be a blend of different types of peppers." That does not justify a split. Meters (talk) 17:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose at this time; there's not enough content to justify a summary style split. Cayenne powder may also be covered by the chili powder article, as a chili powder variety. wbm1058 (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.