Talk:Caxton
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Requested move 18 July 2019[edit]
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The result of the move request was: MOVED as proposed (non-admin closure) Red Slash 23:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Caxton (disambiguation) → Caxton – No primary topic for plain "Caxton". When I Google Caxton, Caxton FX (which though has been deleted) comes up 1st and in the 1st page of results only 1 is for William Caxton which is only the 6th result and on Wikipedia as opposed to Google everyone knows to search for people by including the first name in the search. William Caxton gets 3,636 views while the other articles on the DAB page get 2,859 but views for William Caxton aren't the point anyway since some of those on the DAB are more likely to be known as plain "Caxton" its unlikely that many readers searching for just "Caxton" want William while those looking for the village in Cambridgeshire would search for just "Caxton". There are also a few other places. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. No primarytopic. Dicklyon (talk) 04:11, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom - no clear primary topic. Move disambiguation page to basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Caxton, Cambridgeshire should be moved to Caxton, as it is the only thing on WP actually named "Caxton". Otherwise, support proposal as better than status quo. Station1 (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. Clear primary redirect to William Caxton as already. Very commonly known only by his surname. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Even if he is sometimes known by his last name the page view stats doesn't show a clear primary topic and as Station1 says the village is the only thing here actually called "Caxton". Wouldn't the DAB page at the base name not be best? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think the very, very famous printer (who is very commonly known just by his surname) definitely is the clear primary topic over a small village that most people have never heard of. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:57, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- But unlike the 1st name for Willian (which you opposed) I don't see how a significant number of people would search for just the last name for Caxton. The Google results are telling, in comparison for Caxton, Willian returns nothing but the footballer even though he's current unlike Caxton, I don't see how we can say that William is primary for "Caxton" but the footballer isn't for Willian. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- The many people who don't know that his first name was William but have heard of Caxton! He is one of those people who is very often referred to only by his surname. I don't think you can compare some footballer (who shares a mononym with several other footballers) with one of the most famous printers in history of whom every educated person in the English-speaking world should have heard. If you think you can, then I regret how far Wikipedia is drifting towards being an encyclopaedia of pop culture rather than a true encyclopaedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- But unlike the 1st name for Willian (which you opposed) I don't see how a significant number of people would search for just the last name for Caxton. The Google results are telling, in comparison for Caxton, Willian returns nothing but the footballer even though he's current unlike Caxton, I don't see how we can say that William is primary for "Caxton" but the footballer isn't for Willian. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think the very, very famous printer (who is very commonly known just by his surname) definitely is the clear primary topic over a small village that most people have never heard of. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:57, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Even if he is sometimes known by his last name the page view stats doesn't show a clear primary topic and as Station1 says the village is the only thing here actually called "Caxton". Wouldn't the DAB page at the base name not be best? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Unlike Scargill, the current target of the Caxton redirect doesn't command the most hits on Google, and is not overwhelmingly the PTOPIC. Agree that there isn't one. — Amakuru (talk) 14:47, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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