Talk:Cassian of Imola

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Reliable sources?[edit]

Most of this article seems to come from [1], but i doubt this source. "The city of Brescia recognizes him as its bishop" – but the diocesis of Brescia does not know any Bishop named Cassian [2]. Other sources claim, that he was Bishop of Säben Abbey, but Francesco Lanzoni has proved in 1925 in his book »Le leggende di S. Cassiano«, that he was no bishop at all. The year of death is given as 363, but the other sources give no year at all. According to the homepage of the diocesis of Bolzano-Brixen he died c. 304 [3]. --FordPrefect42 20:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who started the article. Unfortunately, that was two years ago, before we (and me) were so rigorous about citing sources, so I can't be entirely certain what I used to write that from: I remember using a couple of pages I found on the web. I think they're the ones listed in my last January 2005 revision [4]. Cassian is not written up in any detail in either my big Englebert Lives of the Saints or my 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, but there is a passing mention in the Imola entry in the Catholic Encyclopedia. The PDF file at lasalle.org looks familiar, but I remember using HTML pages. The Catholic Encyclopedia also lists uncertainty in the date of his martyrdom, mentioning both the possibility of it occurring during the reign of Diocletian (284 - 305) and during that of Julian (e.g. 363)
If you want to take anything out as being unciteable -- e.g. Bishop of Brescia -- probably that's a good idea. Does anyone have access to the Prudentius martyrology? That might be a good source for additional citeable details. Sorry I can't be more precise. I've been googling for fifteen minutes but I can't find the brown-background page I remember working from. Antandrus (talk) 22:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Here is something I used ... just found it ... [5] -- that mentions him being Bishop of Brescia. This is Martyrs Mirror, of the Defenseless Christians, written by Thieleman J. van Braght, a Dutch Mennonite in 1660. Antandrus (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your statement. For the moment I am reluctant to change anything, since I read that in Italy there is obviously a distinction made between San Cassiano di Imola [6] and San Cassiano di Todi [7] - the one being the martyr of Imola mentioned by Prudentius, the latter a martyr and bishop, yet of Sabiona (Säben), not Brescia. It is really unclear, whether there are really two different martyrs, or whether just the legend has split up at some point. I have found the Prudentius btw. - in the original Latin :-( [8]. As far as I can see, he is not specific about years, and he does not mention Cassian having been a bishop. --FordPrefect42 23:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]