Talk:Carrie (1976 film)/Archive 1

Archive 1

NO! They're all going to laugh at you!

• That line is too funny! And overused throughout the film.
  

dmattt 15:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC) why does it say they "smoke a joint and beat up midgets"? do they really do that in the movie?

They're all going to be mad at you

I removed the trivia section below from the article, which is already too long and packed with more trivia (see differences between book and film section). Before you get mad and dump pig blood on my head, please see WP:NOT to familiarize yourself with what Wikipedia is not. Sorry, everyone, I combed through the trivia section several times and could find nothing relevant to put in the article. If you're going to campaign to keep your favorite trivia nugget in the article, consider this: if someone (famous actor/despised politician/your arch-enemy/your best friend) said "They're all going to laugh at you", would that belong in the article? Is it important to anyone but you and your beer-drinking buddies who added this bit o' trivia while playing drinking games? I'm sure it seemed like a great idea at the time, but in the cold, sober light of day, please ask yourself if it really belongs in a serious encyclopedia article.

Don't mean to offend anyone, and I appreciate everyone's contribution to Carrie. But please don't drink and Wiki. (By the way, if you're going to post trivia in articles, please put it in the proper format so a diligent editor will think twice before deleting it. Film and TV shows titles are italicized, episodes of TV shows are in quote marks, album titles are italicized, songs are in quote marks. When I and other editors see trivia and it's in the wrong format, we're even more likely to delete it).

See you at the prom. Kinkyturnip (talk) 17:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Where to put this fact

I can't decide the best spot for this fact, found in a vintage article (there's no good reason to keep it in quotes, but I'm putting them here to make clear it's not my own wording):

"Carrie ... is Miss [Piper] Laurie's first role since her Oscar-nominated The Hustler fifteen years ago." - Philip Wuntch. "At last, the movies are here," The Dallas Morning News, October 3, 1976, page 1C.

Lawikitejana (talk) 01:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

References in popular culture

Carrie has had a strong effect on popular culture and has been spoofed several times in the media. Most notably, the end prom sequence has spawned countless imitations

• Adam Sandler's album "They're all gonna laugh at you!" contains a track called, "Oh Mom..." , in which children ask permission from their mother to do things, and the mother constantly replies, "NO! They're all going to laugh at you!" This is based on the famous line in the movie spoken by Carrie's mother (Piper Laurie), which is repeated before Carrie gets her revenge at the prom.
• In Scream (1996), a horror film which appears as a tongue-in-cheek approach to the genre, Billy says, "Corn syrup... same thing they used as pig's blood in 'Carrie'".
• In Sabrina The Teenage Witch, at character Sabrina's prom, Hilda says, "I can't believe that bouncer confiscated my pigs' blood. I swear sometimes I think I'm the only one who thought Carrie was a comedy."
• The final episode of the 2006 series of the British comedy The IT Crowd refers to the film when the female lead character is suffering from PMS, to explain to another character what is happening. After being completely oblivious to hints like "I've got Aunt Irma visiting", "it's my time of the month", "It's high tide", "I'm closed for maintenance" and "I've fallen to the Communists", the dumbfounded character finally realizes when a friend says "Carrie... first scene in Carrie".
• In a prom scene in Tiny Toon Adventures red punch is spilled on Shirley the Loon and she starts to go crazy. When Fifi Le Fume asks why people should leave, Babs Bunny grabs her and says "Remember the movie Carrie?"
• In the prom episode of "That '70s Show," you can hear Hyde's mother scream, "They're all gonna laugh at you!" before he exits his house, much like Carrie's mother tells her before Tommy Ross picks her up.
• In the drama series Degrassi: The Next Generation the episode Time Stand Still part 1 and 2 Rick is drenched with yellow paint instead of with blood.
• In the 2006 film Another Gay Movie, a wet dream consists of one of the characters at a prom being drenched in semen instead of blood, and taunts of "they're gonna laugh at you" are heard in the background.
• In the Crash Into Me, Part 2 episode of Grey's Anatomy, Nick, a patient whose carotid artery just exploded on an intern, effectively covering her with blood, says "I'm a little freaked out, to be honest. Mostly because you look like Carrie at the prom."
• In the Into You Like a Train episode of Grey's Anatomy, Meredith says "Carrie at the prom with the pigs blood horrifying" while telling the barman that she asked Dr Derek Shepherd to pick her over his ex-wife.
• In the drama series Charmed, after having received a power she is unable to control, Piper states that "by next week, I will be walking around like Carrie at the prom".
• In another episode of Charmed, "Hyde School Reunion", Phoebe, whilst at her high school reunion, begins to cause chaos as the result of a back-fired spell; resulting in her sister Paige commenting that "as someone whose seen Carrie, both versions, I'd say the reunion is over".
• In the opening scenes of the episode Mother's Little Helper of the series Medium, Ariel has a dream that is very similar to the ending of the movie.
• In the Addams Family Values movie, the last scene features Wednesday Addams (Christina Ricci) and her boyfriend over the grave of the Addams kids' nanny. Wednesday states that if she had to kill her husband (which the nanny previously did several times), she'd make him die of fright. Her boyfriend answers that it isn't possible and reaches out to put flowers over the tomb. At that moment a hand shoots out of the grave and grabs his arm, while he screams in horror.
• The pig's blood scene is parodied in American Dad, in a flashback where it is Stan's prom night and his peers tell him that the prom queen wants to dance with him. He walks over to her and one of the bullies pulls a rope, releasing pigs on to him. *The first bully says "Pigs?! It was meant to be pig's blood!" to which the second bully responds "I didn't finish the book!" and finally the first bully says 'You stopped reading after pigs?! That's not even the end of the sentence!"
• In a Halloween special of Simpsons Comics, a tale called Dark Lisa was published as a mix of Carrie and the Dark Phoenix Saga in X-Men. Lisa is teased at school for being vegetarian in a similar vein to Carrie teased over her menstruation; the most notable is when Bart, as vengeance against Lisa, rigs her shower with chili, the girls in the changing rooms throw paper towels at her shouting "Clean it up! Clean it up!" in reference to the girls throwing sanitary napkins at Carrie accompanied by cries of "Plug it up! Plug it up!" Further references include: Principal Skinner mistaking Lisa for Bart (the principal can't remember Carrie's name); Ralph is pushed off his bike telepathically while teasing Lisa (Carrie does the same to a little boy on a bike); Jessica Lovejoy and Nelson Muntz plan to humiliate Lisa even further at the Lemonade Ball (akin to Chris and Billy plotting against Carrie); Lisa sarcastically asks Nelson whether he's going to "boost my ego as Ball Queen and then have your friends dump chili over my head?", a swipe at the bucket of pig blood climax; and Lisa's new-found mastery of telepathy ends up massacreing the whole student body (with the exception of Bart and Milhouse). The rest of the tale is a direct parody of Dark Phoenix, as Lisa is capable of flight, surrounded by a dark fiery aura à la Phoenix, and Mr Burns and Smithers disguise themselves as Professor X and Cyclops respectively in order to blackmail Lisa into powering the nuclear plant.
• In the Ben Elton novel Past Mortem Helen Smart has her period in the change room and golden girl, Christine Copperfield, sticks a tampon down her throat. She later describes it as "like the scene from Carrie."
• On the UPN sitcom "Girlfriends," Joan kneels at Toni's (imaginary) grave and confesses that she told Toni's boyfriend Greg that Toni cheated on him. As Joan lays flowers on Toni's grave, Toni's hand reaches through the ground and grabs Joan's hand.
• In the Ramones song "Endless Vacation" Deedee references Carrie in one line - "Like taking Carrie to the prom/somethings always going wrong"
• In a scene in "Knocked Up" the opening credits to "Carrie" are showed when trying to find films with nudity.

On the topic of Spoofs, one forgot "Kerry Promo" - which features someone pretending to be John Kerry in a prom dress having Heinz ketchup dumped on him by his wife. He is introduced as "the boy who wants to live in that scary house" - which features a picture of the Whitehouse - the tenth one down. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.77.84.175 (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Were There Really Two Endings for This Film?

Were there really two different endings for this particular film?

The other known ending - besides the hand from the grave - is the one where Carrie attends the prom.

WikiPro1981X (talk) 07:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Whatever you're referring to seems to have been deleted. No, there weren't two endings. The hand from the grave ending wasn't scripted when filming began, but the filmmakers knew they wanted another scene after the destruction of the White's home. Additionally, in the script that's circulating (which has the grave ending tacked on), Sue follows Carrie home and escapes mere moments before the house is entirely destroyed. Although the rest of the text seems to be the shooting script, judging from the way the scene plays in the final cut of the movie it's assumed that the scene was slightly rewritten before it was filmed to exclude Sue (since she was given an epilogue).

VinnieRattolle (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

so

written by a Cohen, the film is anti-chirst? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.212.100.177 (talk) 03:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The death of Carrie's mother

When Carrie kills her mother with the knives, and leaves her standing pinned to the wall, it's very clear that this is meant to be like Christ on the cross. I'm not sure what the significance of that is supposed to be, maybe she's supposed to be dying for Carrie's sins? Maybe she's getting what she wants, after telling everyone to find Christ? Some people disagree with me, anyway I think that should be in the article...VenomousConcept (talk) 21:31, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's original research for us to claim that assocation without a reliable source, ideally someone who was involved with the film, establishing that it's intentional. That being said I noted that you added a source, which is awesome. I'll be looking at that shortly and will let you know if I see any problems with it. That being said, I might suggest moving this into a Production section, or creating a new one. As a Plot detail it's really not important...the important part is that Carrie's mother is dead. Anyway, if I don't speak up further than I'm fine with how it stands now beyond my feeling that it might be better as a Production detail. Thanks for your work on this! Doniago (talk) 13:35, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Was AFI considering Carrie as a hero or a villain?

Given the circumstances of her character and the film, an argument could easily be made for each. I suppose most would say villain though. Anybody else want to put in their two cents?--Futuremoviewriter (talk) 22:13, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Not many are actually laughing

It should be clarified that while Carrie sees the people laughing, most are in fact shocked. There are some people actually laughing which she notices, at this point she begins to imagine everyone laughing at her. This isn't what is happening, this is the result of her mother saying they are all going to laugh at you. The current wording "Carrie sees the whole room (including Miss Collins) laughing at her." gives the impression she sees everyone laughing at her because they are, not because she is imaginging it.

Moved this to the bottom, where new threads should normally be placed. I've updated the text to read "hallucinates", which I'm not sure is the best word but seems more accurate at least. BTW, you're welcome to be bold and edit the article on your own initiative. The plot summary in particular needs to be cut down in accordance with WP:FILMPLOT. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Religious imagery important to mention

The Religious imagery is important in this style of horror, religious horror uses symbols. Carrie seemed to use her powers as a way to mock the Jesus statue by making the eyes look like cartoon eyes of shock. And also other statues are made to look silly from their orignal way when she is excuse the french "pissed," it seems she does not like any religious imagery or the spirit poesessing her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.89.236 (talk) 00:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Tag within 'development' section

Aren't there enough references within this section to warrant removal of the tag currently there? --Kieronoldham (talk) 02:01, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

It looks okay to me, though later sections could use additional cites. DonIago (talk) 02:32, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm game to attempt to find other references in other sections, Doniago, if you want to remove and add section tags. Thanks.--Kieronoldham (talk) 02:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I've tagged specific statements that I thought could benefit from references and de-tagged Development. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 02:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see what I can find.--Kieronoldham (talk) 02:45, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Overhaul

I might start expanding this article in a few days as I've gotten a Collector's Edition Blu-ray of this movie as a birthday gift. The copy has plenty of bonus content including interviews from the filmmakers and history behind the conception of the movie; it can give the article a significant boost. Bluesphere 06:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Reliable?

Can someone check the reliability of this source? The site reposted a transcript of the interview originally conducted by Cinefantastique magazine. Bluesphere 08:32, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Rewrite the Plot Section

This movie has been rated (deservedly, in my humble opinion) as an important part of Wikipedia's coverage of horror movies. I think it really deserves a rewrite of the plot section, as the current is very confusing and badly written/copy edited. ANarc (talk) 05:52, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

• Seconded. 86.30.14.139 (talk) 16:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Plot section was significantly lengthened on 12 May 2010 by user 190.166.144.232. Various changes and additions were made that introduced typos and removed wikilinks. On 14 May I corrected a couple of these in the opening paragraphs, but an extensive rewrite or the reversal of the entire 12 May edit may be required. The News Hound 15:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
    • I made some edits to the plot. It was poorly written in my opinion. Honestly, I think that it could almost use a whole re-write, but I'm not really the best person to do it. Please feel free to reverse or improve on the changes I made. It seemed to include too many unimportant details and had some confusing and run-on sentences prior to my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.36.37.4 (talk) 08:21, 1 November 2020 (UTC)