Talk:Britney Spears/Archive 11

Possessive Proper Nouns ending with 'S'

Regarding this revert, I'm reasonably sure the grammatically correct thing to do is to omit the extraneous 'S', following the name with only an apostrophe. That's what I was taught in English at school. --Setanta747 (talk) 16:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

See Apostrophe#Singular_nouns_ending_with_an_.22s.22_or_.22z.22_sound. As User:MrMarmite has pointed out on several occasions, the rule can differ when the pronoun is someone's actual name with an 's' in it.

This subsection deals with singular nouns pronounced with a sibilant sound at the end: /s/ or /z/. The spelling of these ends with -s, -se, -z, -ze, or -ce. Traditionally it was more common to require and many respected sources still do require that practically all singular nouns, including those ending with a sibilant sound, have possessive forms with an extra s after the apostrophe. Examples include the Modern Language Association, The Elements of Style, and The Economist. Such sources would demand possessive singulars like these: Senator Jones's umbrella; Mephistopheles's cat. However, many modern writers omit the extra s. Some respected style guides such as the Chicago Manual of Style recommend the traditional practice but say that both are correct. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 21:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

i don't understand exactly what you mean by omitting the 'S' but if your trying to say its because her surnames ends in an S you're wrong. It should be Spears's not Spears' you only use s' when you are talking about a group of people/ plural ownership such as 'the girls' coats were hung neatly' but with names it's just S's Ogioh (talk) 21:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Comeback

I think there should be more mentioned about how blackout was her most critical acclaimed album despite what was going on her life and how her VMA comeback has been hailed as the comeback of the century. I'm not saying we list all about her fall from grace an call her a disgrace but i think it should be touched on a bit more and her comeback should be a good bit more detailed. After all this past year has probably seen the major events in her life for the bad reasons but recently there has been a lot more good ones. Ogioh (talk) 18:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Smells like recentism to me. Qb | ^{your 2 cents} 19:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Basicly what i'm saying is elaborate a bit more on how she was praised for making a good album (blackout) even though her personal life was in turmoil. This being a year ago hardly recentism and say how she ws praised for her cmeback at this years VMA's Ogioh (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I really depends. With any other artist I'd probably say no, but unfortunately, this is Britney Spears and the majority of the public image steams from everything BUT her music. A brief mention, attributed to a reliable source might be fine, but its not important enough to warrant a full paragraph or an independent section.

A few sentences was all i was suggesting a paragraph would be way to much. Ogioh (talk) 01:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

That's fine then, as long as its phrased in a neutral way. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 07:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Maintainted Tag

IMHO... I find this ridiculously stupid. There is no need for that when people usually just leave a message here when they have an issue. They can see, easily, from the talk page and history who the folks are that edit and maintain the page. I've removed it once. I wont do it again. However, I really dont like. Qb | ^{your 2 cents} 23:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't really mind it being reverted its just handier for new users to know the main people to go to if they're stuck on editing about britney. I've seen them on a good few articles. I think we should wait and see what the consensus is about it. Regular editors your input is wanted. Ogioh (talk) 23:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You are entitled to your opinion QB, but by that logic, the tag wouldn't exist on wikipedia at all. I know several editor find the tag useful, especially on certain topics, including FA reviewers and administrators. The tag itself specifically states "this does not imply ownership". The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 01:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

"By that logic, the tag wouldn't exist on wikipedia at all." It's been brought for deletion 3 times. The last two times were no consensus. Thats not a free ride for it to exist. Qb | ^{your 2 cents} 13:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 21:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

More detail on Blackout and ALL singles, not just Gimme More

Blackout's lead single, "Gimme More" leaked on the internet on August 30.[116] The song, which was Spears's first produced by Danja, peaked at number three on Billboard's Hot 100 on October 3, making it her most successful single in the U.S. since her debut, "...Baby One More Time".[122][123] Spears's highly-anticipated performance of "Gimme More" at the 2007 MTV Video Music Awards was panned.[124][125][126] The BBC stated that "her performance would go down in the history books as being one of the worst to grace the MTV Awards",[127] and The Times noted that "Spears was out of synch as she lip-synched and at times just stopped singing altogether".[128] Despite the criticism on her performance,[129] the single has achieved worldwide success.[130][131][132] - The coverage of this album is really off. It's dominated by info on the lead single with no mention of the others. There isn't any sales info either. — Realist² 21:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually "Piece of Me" is mentioned in the 08 section because it won those MTV awards. I'm quite sure "Piece of Me" outperformed "Gimme More" worldwide. Why so much focus on the latter then? I hope this isn't US talking points? An international perspective is always better. — Realist² 21:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Page Protection

I requested page protection following yesterdays vandalism. i.e the first thing you see ALEXANDRA AND DANIELLE WERE HERE BITCHHH!!!! or todays SHE IS A BIIATCH comments and the rest of all the vandalism this article has suffered since its protection expired. With an Article like this i think page protection should be requested as soon as it expires. I have no problem taking responsibilty for that. Ogioh (talk) 20:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Recent Picture

Can anyone please update a recent picture of Britney, like the one at MTV VMA 08? The picture uploaded was too old, so i replaced it with this recent fan-art, untill the day, a recent press cutting is uploaded . --"Legolas" (talk) 11:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

She is totally a contralto

She is absolutely a contralto. She cannot be up there in the soprano range as Christina Aguilera. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waraujo20 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I absolutely agree. Wikipedia lists a contralto's range as being "G below middle C (G3) to two Gs above middle C (G5). In the lower and upper extremes, some contralto voices can sing from the E below middle C (E3) to two B♭s above middle C (B♭5)." Britney's range in her songs extends from (from memory) C# (below middle C) to F (two above middle C). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.193.30 (talk) 00:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Adnan Ghalib

If you search for Adnan Ghalib (paparrazo claiming to have a Britney sex tape) you get redirected here, but there appears to be no mention of the scandal and his name is never mentioned on the page. So why the redirect? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.142 (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

birthday?

Why is her birthday listed as December 3rd when it is December 2nd??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.215.99 (talk) 00:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for bring that to our attention and it has been fixed. Someone (by looking through the page history) changed it yesterday and minor but incorrect edits like that tend to go un-noticed very easily. AngelOfSadness talk 00:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

screenshot

if we take a screensot from one of her music videos is that a copyrighted image? because if it isnt why dnt we just use one from piece of me as the main picture for the page? or one from womanizer when that gets released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxicbomb2004 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

A screenshot of a music video is a image taken from copyright material which is owned by Spears's record label. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Make A Seperate Section For 2008

So many positive stuff has hapened in 2008 so to have 2008 and 2007 in the same part is just wrong.

Britney has closed off 2007 and is doing totally different things now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.98.70 (talk) 14:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

2008-

Why wikipedia removed the genre section?

Wikipdia removed the genre section of all music artists. What are they going to do next? remove the genres of video games too?. Pé de Chinelo (talk) 14:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I know but i doubt it will last long, theres bound to be one admin with common sense who'll start a campaign to revert such stupid things and the like. Ogioh (talk) 20:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The ridiculous daily (sometimes hourly) edit wars over an artist genre(s) caused it to be removed. Frankly, I think we're better without it, but there is an ongoing discussion among all music editors on how to prevent edit wars over genres, should the removal be reversed. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 04:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Really, do you have a link to the discussion? I'd like to take part in it. Ogioh (talk) 16:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music. the entire talk page is the discussion, you'll have to read through the whole thing. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 04:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks xD Ogioh (talk) 16:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

New picture.

I found these two pictures, I think they have a free license.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/viernest/2843890828/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonas_brothers_luvs_ammy_lou/2873198139/

— Jhn* 16:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Both of them are copyright violations, regardless of the free license on the flickr page, the two uploaders doesn't have the right to release these images under a free license. --Kanonkas :  Talk  16:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

New Picture

Hi all, Iv'e just added a new picture because a) it's recent and b) the previous picture her face was blurred and it didn't clearly show who the article was about. The photo was scanned from a broadsheet newspaper in the UK so I added the newspaper licence. Hope this one stays up. Thanks --Jak3m (talk) 23:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Lyric Wiki

Do you guys think we should add a link to Lyric Wiki for Britney? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zlrussell (talk • contribs) 16:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

No, because LyricWiki is a site dedicated to wholesale copyright violation, and Wikipedia doesn't permit links to copyright violations.—Kww(talk) 16:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thay may be so but a link to LyricWiki would be a way to provide even more users and vistors to lyricwiki. Also it would be a excellent link! Zlrussell (talk) 19:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Why would we want to provide users and visitors to people that violate copyrights? I'd be more inclined to figure out a way to shut down the site permanently.—Kww(talk) 19:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I know the site violate a few copyrights but I still consider the site a very good source for the artist. We need a third party to settle this. Zlrussell (talk) 20:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

First, it doesn't violate "a few" copyrights. None of Spears's songs are in public domain. Every single lyric that it includes for Britney Spears is a copyright violation. As for a third opinion, is the official Wikipedia policy prohibiting such links good enough for you?—Kww(talk) 21:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm a third party opinion and i say bad idea. It will be removed as soon as youmput it up more than likely and if you revert it, which you more than likely will given your obvious strong feelings for a link, you'll just be given an edit war warring. Any site thats in the Wikimedia foundation would be suitable for a link but not LyricWiki. Ogioh (talk) 20:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I see. Well that's all I need to here. Thanks for both of your inputs. Zlrussell (talk) 02:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Guinness Records

I think there should be more mention of her guinness records. Only her 'Most Searched Person on the Internet {2008} is mentioned. Those who did not know, but she also has the titles: Most Searched Person on the Internet {2006}, Best Selling Album by a Teenage Solo Artist (2000), Best Selling Album in the US by a Female Artist (2000), Best Selling Teenage Artist (2001), Fastest Most No. 1 Singles on UK chart by a teenage Female Solo Artist (2000). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptune1993 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Child Hostage Situation/Sam Lutfi

Can Britney's mother Lynne Spears book 'Through the storm' be referenced in wiki? The book cites that the reason Spears held her children because then self imposed manager Sam Lutfi told her ex husband Kevin Federline had given Britney permission to have their children for an extra hour, when in reality this was not true. If the book can be referenced (can you get permission from ThomasNelson publishers?) there is a lot of factual information concerning Spears upbringing and Sam Lutfi who played a huge role in her downspiral, there was an official restraining order against Sam Lutfi by Lynne Spears floating around the internet too. Thanks. 11.12GMT 5 November 2008

Picture

Can someone put on a new picture? The current one with her performing at the NFL Kickoff Show in 2003 doesn't show her face properly. I'm sure that there are much better pictures for people to put on and for people who don't know what she looks like will be tough. Can't we put the current picture in a different section? It doesn't look very professional putting it as her main picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R13n13 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

As stated many, many times before, we can only use free images for the main picture. None are available except the current image. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Britney

Since Britney is a name that can refer to very many things, why does Britney redirect to here?

I'm not asking this as a form of criticism. I just would like to know when that change was made and why it was made. Thanks. Sugar-Baby-Love (talk) 05:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Blame the fandom. It's been restored to point to Brittany (name). 69.181.249.92 (talk) 06:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Typos / Errors

In one of her pictures it says "Spears's" .. do we wan't to be taken seriously? The correct punctuation is just Spears'

Little things like this do matter.

Actually the correct punctuation is Spears's. s' is for showing possession of plural nouns. example: the dog belongs to the Spears'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.216.96.245 (talk) 21:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Britney's signature in information box?

I recently visited Beyonces Wikipedia article and noticed that her signature has been placed in the information box. I think it would be a great idea to consider to add Britney's signature to her information box since it is widely used in different promotion (most recently The Singles Collection artwork and Candie's commercials) and it is distinctive by the fact that she always put a heart somewhere in it (and sometimes even a smiley).

Here is a good picture to use: http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn61/ajuvgarcia/Britney%20Spears/signature.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.49.241 (talk) 18:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

7th Album

According to a new Billboard interview, max Martin and Dr. Luke are co-executive producing Britney's 7th album.

"In the coming months, Gottwald will co-executive produce Britney Spears' 2011 project"

http://www.billboard.com/features/dr-luke-the-billboard-cover-story-1004112877.story#/features/dr-luke-the-billboard-cover-story-1004112877.story —Preceding unsigned comment added by ColdAsFire Baby (talk • contribs) 02:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not enough to mention it, though. Xwomanizerx (talk) 03:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I think mentioned 2011 is fine, it comes from an official source. --Shadow (talk) 03:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Where's that "official source"? As far as I'm concerned, a late 2010 release is just as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.49.241 (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you blind? It's link just up above. Billboard. And "as far as I'm concerned" means nothing nor does it mean it is possible. --Shadow (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't say Billboard is an "official source" to anything except for things that are 100% Billboard-related. For this to be called "official", it would need to come from Britney, her management or her label. Since when was news coming from a magazine official news? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.49.241 (talk) 20:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Billboard isn't just a magazine, it's the US' official albums charts and they track these kinds of things. --Shadow (talk) 03:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

The Original Doll

Shouldn't there be something about her unreleased album? --Cprice1000talk2me 12:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

If you can provide reliable sources, I don't see why there should be a problem. Xwomanizerx (talk) 15:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

7th studio album info

Taken from The Music Release Network. Please look, and add to article if needed.--JackSUNxD (talk) 06:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

GLEE?

Should the upcoming Glee episode be mentioned? It has been talked about a lot and the commercial is currently the most watched video on YouTube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.49.241 (talk) 19:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

After we get rating and reviews, it can be added. Xwomanizerx (talk) 22:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Soundscan figures

Since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking U.S. album sales in 1991, Spears ranks as the 15th-best-selling album artist, with 31.5 million units sold. Among women, her album sales are the fourth-best, trailing only the sums of Mariah Carey (No. 3, 52.6 million), Celine Dion (No. 5, 51.1 million) and Shania Twain (No. 12, 33.9 million).

http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/pre-glee-britney-by-the-numbers-1004117182.story?tag=hpfeed#/column/chartbeat/pre-glee-britney-by-the-numbers-1004117182.story?tag=hpfeed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.119.163.21 (talk) 21:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

change the main picture

I am in now way arguing that the picture makes her look horrible. The point is, it makes her look bad, and fat. Whoever is editing this article, I am sure you did not include that photo as her main photo, but it is not the photo that should represent her. "The Circus Tour" photo should be changed because it is irrelevant to her biography as a recording artist. That is why a main photo is called "main" photo, because it is supposed to be the main photo of her, not her at the circus tour. I am open to your feedback, but please take what I am saying into consideration at the least. There are several uncopyrighted photos of britney in commons that you can use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillonmcallaway (talk • contribs) 00:25, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

And where are those several uncopyrighted pictures in commons? Please keep in mind they have to be recent. Xwomanizerx (talk) 01:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jjbagood, 1 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change the line " She publicly announced she longer studied Kabbalah in June 2006, explaining, "my baby is my religion".[62]" to "She publicly announced she no longer studied Kabbalah in June 2006, explaining, "my baby is my religion".[62]"

The "no" should be added as that what is correct according to the source.

Jjbagood (talk) 01:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Nymf _hideliho! 01:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

change the main picture please

The picture of Britney Spears in "Circus" does not look that good, and it makes her look really ugly and fat. Please change that picture, because Britney does not usually wear ugly clothes like that. This goes for all wiki photos. If the person/animal/thing does not usually look like that, than put something else please. You can still use the "Circus" photo, but please not for the main picture. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zm17930 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

We are limited to which pictures we can use on Wikipedia, as they require specific photo licensing. The current main picture is a relatively recent one that is fine, and doesn't make her look "fat" at all or "ugly", in my opinion. Yves (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think the picture is an excellent picture of her. It shows off exactly what she looks like and ummmm....... fat? She's gotta be like 90 pounds. It is a little bit old, but only by a year. If you can get a better a picture (one that you took and you did not find on the web and is not an album,single,etc. cover) then you can change it. However, there is not a real need to. --Cprice1000talk2me 01:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

conservatorship

I think the 2009-present section should include how her conservatorship was extended

Conservatorship was not extended, as clarified by TMZ, but remained as normal.

So isn't that noteworthy? Her latest appeal to regain control of her personal affairs was denied?i

No it isn't. Britney did not 'appeal to regain control of her pesonal affairs', it was simply a hearing, to discuss progress, and for the order of legal payments to be paid, next hearing is schedueled for January 14th. It has been hinted that steps to eliminate the conservatorship will be initiated on that date.

The correct spelling of her conservator of her estate is "Andrew Wallet"; Wallet is currently spelled improperly.

Fixed. Xwomanizerx (talk) 03:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I am a Typo

On the second paragraph, last sentence, it reads, " In the late 2009, Spears released The Singles Collection which include Spears third number one hit single entitled 3." The word " include has the wrong part of speech; and it should at least be "included" or "includes". Someone please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Fixed. Xwomanizerx (talk) 03:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

BEST-SELLING TEENAGE ARTIST

Is it worth mentioning in the opening paragraph that Britney is the world's best selling teenage artist with over 37 million albums sold before she turned 20? I think it is an important acievement that is worth to mention.

This according to Guinness World Records: (source)

http://britneyspearsblackout.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/guiness-2.jpg --213.100.49.241 (talk) 00:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

official website

shouldn't her website britneyspears.com be listed on the External links

Orbitt (talk) 21:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

As I understand, it is in the infobox and so does not need or shouldn't be in external links, although many articles do duplicate such links but technically it is no correct. Off2riorob (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Album in 2011

When talking to The Hollywood Reporter, Dr. Luke (who is executive producing the album) stated he's anticipating the album in early 2011. I think it would be ok to have the new album as it's own section in the article since we know she's in the process and we have confirmation from the executive producer that it should be out next year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ColdAsFire Baby (talk • contribs) 02:10, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Divison of albums into sections

Both Janet and Michael Jackson have their wiki pages set up so that each album has it's own section and isn't combined with another album (for example ...Baby One More Time and Oops!... I Did It Again are clumped together on Britney's). Is it possible to divide each section so that only one album is present in each?

Janet takes year between albums. ...Baby One More Time and Oops!... I Did It Again were released within two years. Xwomanizerx (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

2011 Album Page

I think a page for her upcoming album should be started. Maybe, in the incubator, because obviously it's not notable, yet. But, there is plenty of information to start one now. --Cprice1000talk2me 15:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL. Xwomanizerx (talk) 16:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Needs a "Personal life" section

Information about Spears' personal life is mixed in with information about her career. Don't most biographical articles have a separate "personal life" section? --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 04:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Not really. See Janet Jackson, Madonna. I'm working on a Public image section though. Xwomanizerx (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

A Public image section sounds great.--213.103.195.217 (talk) 15:23, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Purple Vendetta????

Where is this coming from?????? --Cprice1000talk2me 18:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Fans who are bored with their lives. Xwomanizerx (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

lol! In that case we need to give out notices on these IP's talk pages. Purple Vendetta isn't a bad name though... --Cprice1000talk2me 20:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't even know what it means :D. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:03, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I just checked. It means a 'feud.' A purple argument???? OK --Cprice1000talk2me 15:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

2011 Album Page

Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Britney Spears' Untitled 7th Studio Album. Can ya'll help with this article. I've been improving it (it's not mine), but it still has more potential, as I'm definitely not the greatest editor in the world. --Cprice1000talk2me 22:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Why? This page is really unnecessary. Gaga's Born this Way has been talked about and hyped for a year and doesn't have a page. Britney just announced the album's release date. Xwomanizerx (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Actually, yes it does. Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Born This Way --Cprice1000talk2me 01:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Original Doll

I feel it would be good if more information could be obtained on The Original Doll (Britneys Unreleased album) This kind of thing could include Demo's, reasons for never releasing etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 17:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I added what I could find in the article. --Cprice1000talk2me 22:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

And that's everything. The rest is just fan speculation. Xwomanizerx (talk) 23:41, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Forbes Rating

The opening paragraphs of a wiki page should contain important details, not subjective trivia. Forbes 'most powerful' ranking is merely one American magazine editor's perceived and unsupported opinion as to each well-known person's 'power'. By rights it should not appear on any wiki page other than the Forbes magazine page itself.

Looking at other wiki pages for truly powerful people:
Barack Obama (President, USA) - No mention of Forbes ridiculous ranking on his page
Vladimir Putin (Prime Minister, Russia) - No mention of Forbes
Dmitry Medvedev (President, Russia) - No mention of Forbes
David Cameron (Prime Minister, United Kingdom) - No mention of Forbes
Benjamin Netanyahu (Prime Minister, Israel) - No mention of Forbes
Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (King, Saudi Arabia) - No mention of Forbes
Nicolas Sarkozy (President, France) - No mention of Forbes
Ali Khamenei (Supreme Leader, Iran) - No mention of Forbes
Naoto Kan (Prime Minister, Japan) - No mention of Forbes
Ashfaq Parvez Kayani (Chief of Army Staff, Pakistan) - No mention of Forbes

So why does one Britney Spears fan keep reinstating Forbes rating here - unless (s)he is a Forbes Magazine employee...

It's not just 'subjective trivia', Forbes is a reputed magazine known around the world. And the difference between the list of people and Spears is clear; a leader of a country is obviously influential, but the fact that a female pop artist is included in such group IS notable. Xwomanizerx (talk) 01:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Also take a look at Lady Gaga's lead. Xwomanizerx (talk) 01:43, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Xwomanizerx, Britney Spears does not know you. Take your hands off your keyboard, go outside and try to find yourself a real woman! Britney already has enough fans chasing her - no wonder she started doing crazy things: getting married for 55 hours, driving a car with her son on her lap, shaving her head, getting tattoos, taking illicit substances, refusing to relinquish custody of her sons. Crikey - how many women are 29 years old and have mommy and daddy controlling her assets because she is not capable of doing so? Come on, do her and all her fans a favor - leave Britney and her wiki page alone. B. Fairbairn (talk) 10:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

The above comment was made because every time anyone makes a change to the Britney Spears wiki page, xwomanizerx steps in and undoes it. For some unknown reason he has made it his mission in life to control Britney's wiki page. In the last 9 months xwomanizerx has made over 80 edits on this page. If that is not a major obsession then what is... Butt out and leave it to the moderators to monitor changes. You are not Britney's royal crusader. B. Fairbairn (talk) 12:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

You need to read WP:EQ and not resort to making fun of other Wikipedians. xWomanizerX is a great contributor to the Britney Spears articles and always has a reason to revert all the nonsense that is posted on this page. Chill. --Cprice1000talk2me 23:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

opening

in the third paragraph of the opening it says, 100 mil records sold, making her on of the best selling music artists in contemporary music, i think it should be left at 'making her one of the best selling music artists of all time' becuase with sales of 100 mil thats what she is, it says on Christina Aguileras page she is one of the best selling music artists of all time and she has sold 50mil, so i think its safe to say Britney will be also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.16.7 (talk) 02:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that's correct, but I'm gonna wait for a second opinion. --Cprice1000talk2me 02:28, 1 January 2011 (UTC)