Talk:Breech

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Buttocks, the lower part of the human abdomen????[edit]

i don't think so. Parababelico (talk) 18:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have never heard of this either... Obscure to say the least. KDS4444^Talk 07:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Argument in favor of having an artillery-oriented primary topic instead of a disambig page[edit]

It looks like this page was originally created based on a dictionary list of definitions for the word breech rather than on an attempt to determine whether or not there was a primary topic for the word. While it may be true that the oldest definition of the word breech has to do with pants and that therefore this definition/meaning and significance as a primary topic based on original usage, such usage is now, I believe, so archaic that no one typing in the word breech on Wikipedia is ever going to be expecting to have the result of breeches or britches. The only results that come up having to do with pants on a Google search are those that are based on dictionary definitions (i.e., the results are circular). As for the definitions having to do with the buttocks, I'm not the first person to find such a definition bizarrely obscure. The remaining definitions are sufficiently rare to not warrant even cursory consideration, except for the definition having to do with artillery and the one having to do with childbirth.

An article already exists for the latter under the words breech birth, even though apparently the word breech can by itself mean a breech birth. Again, anyone searching for information about a breech birth on Wikipedia is going to type "breech birth" rather than type "breech" and expect to find an article about breech birth. With regard to childbirth, breech is used almost exclusively as an adjective nowadays rather than a noun, and therefore occurs in the context of such topics as breech position, breech presentation, and breech baby (all of which have to do with breech birth).

However, the use of the word breech with regard to artillery as a stand-alone noun is both highly prevalent in Google searches and has an historical definition that precedes the use of the word breech with regard to childbirth (OED gives a definition of breech for gunnery dating from 1575 but for breech birth dating from 1630 or so). Since an article already exists on breech birth that is not even part of this disambiguation list but is rather a see also link at the bottom of the page, I think it is fair to argue that the use of the word breech with regard to artillery can be isolated as a primary topic for this term and therefore should have its own page with a disambiguation header for the other definitions located at the top. Unless anyone objects, I will now do this. KDS4444^Talk 08:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]