Talk:Boss (2013 Hindi film)
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Revertion of edits, reasoning[edit]
Multiple issues:
- No source for multiple statements like Audience reception, names, trailer and teaser release dates etc.
- Youtube video hits are not kept track of because they are subject to change please state how they have a meaningful impact on the article.
Please provide references for your edits. Sohambanerjee1998 13:16, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 17 October 2013[edit]
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Please add:
Rajeev Masand of IBN LIVE gave the film 1.5 stars out of 5 citing " Neither original, nor entertaining, this Boss deserves to be fired!"
183.87.193.20 (talk) 12:54, 17 October 2013 (UTC) http://www.weirdangles.com/2013/07/boss-2013-reviews-trailer-images-news.html
Done. I've cited the IBN Live page itself, since the Weird Angles one doesn't have that quote. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 14:20, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Undone The article's critical reception section suffers from close paraphrasing problem. Adding one line reviews which are more about the reviewers personal liking of the film is unnecessary since it lacks the fundamental thing to provide critical analysis of technical things like direction, cinematography, flaws not their personal opinion. Plus you have to add it in your own word otherwise its a copy-vio. Minimal use of quotes within " " is acceptable but lifting is not. Sohambanerjee1998 15:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Sohambanerjee1998: You have misunderstood the close paraphrasing guideline. Please see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#Quotation of non-free text, which states: "Limited quotation from non-free copyrighted sources is allowed, as discussed in Wikipedia's non-free content policy and guideline. Quotations should have in-text attribution and should be cited to their original source or author (see WP:When to cite)." The material added, which you removed, was directly quoted, was given in-text attribution, and was sourced to the original. Please also be aware that accusations of copyright violation are serious and should be made only with careful attention to the facts. There was no copyright violation in that addition. It is quite usual to quote respected critics in Critical reception sections. Please undo you reversion. --Stfg (talk) 09:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Stfg: I agree with you, there is nothing wrong in adding one-line quotes but technically in does no justice to the section critical reception. The critics word Neither original, nor entertaining, this Boss deserves to be fired! is just a personal opinion about his liking of the film, if a film making aspect mentioned in the review was added I would have made no objection. In the end I would like to apologize if my words affected anyone's sentiments, as one can see at the top I have pledged to extend my limits just for the betterment of the article and would die rather than not to abide by it. Stfg as you can see I have contributed to the article a lot and a DYK so I plan to add critical reception, a summary of the reviews in own word with minimal quotes but being a student I have very little time so please be kind enough to give me that time so that I can work hard enough to make the article a
. Being a member of Wikipedia:Neutrality cabal and following the policy WP:NPOV I have always adhered to being neutral and unbiased and adding this review would be a classic example of the above mentioned policies so I would definitely add them. Thanks. If anyone in meantime adds it please add it in the manner displayed Fight Club (film)#Critical reception i.e. in own words Id be more than happy to see it. Best, --Sohambanerjee1998 09:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Sohambanerjee1998: Thanks. I am happy to leave it to you to rewrite the section in your own words. That's fine. Of course, all comments by critics are personal opinions; all WP:NPOV requires us to do is to ensure that we represent the spectrum of critical opinion fairly. Please do take care with accusations of copyvio. I actually have a strong record of reporting copyvio and have both successfully proposed a CCI and contributed to it. Believe me, there is no copyvio in that section. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 10:13, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Stfg:, yes if it had been earlier I too thought that there are no copy-vio's but some time ago I requested an article to reassessed at WP:FILM, the reviewer, User:Betty logan declined the article a B -class and retained it as a start. When I queried her about the reason for the declination she pointed out that the critical reception was full of copy-vio's. The article - Special 26. Sohambanerjee1998 10:19, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Sohambanerjee1998: Thanks. I am happy to leave it to you to rewrite the section in your own words. That's fine. Of course, all comments by critics are personal opinions; all WP:NPOV requires us to do is to ensure that we represent the spectrum of critical opinion fairly. Please do take care with accusations of copyvio. I actually have a strong record of reporting copyvio and have both successfully proposed a CCI and contributed to it. Believe me, there is no copyvio in that section. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 10:13, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Stfg: I agree with you, there is nothing wrong in adding one-line quotes but technically in does no justice to the section critical reception. The critics word Neither original, nor entertaining, this Boss deserves to be fired! is just a personal opinion about his liking of the film, if a film making aspect mentioned in the review was added I would have made no objection. In the end I would like to apologize if my words affected anyone's sentiments, as one can see at the top I have pledged to extend my limits just for the betterment of the article and would die rather than not to abide by it. Stfg as you can see I have contributed to the article a lot and a DYK so I plan to add critical reception, a summary of the reviews in own word with minimal quotes but being a student I have very little time so please be kind enough to give me that time so that I can work hard enough to make the article a
- @Sohambanerjee1998: You have misunderstood the close paraphrasing guideline. Please see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#Quotation of non-free text, which states: "Limited quotation from non-free copyrighted sources is allowed, as discussed in Wikipedia's non-free content policy and guideline. Quotations should have in-text attribution and should be cited to their original source or author (see WP:When to cite)." The material added, which you removed, was directly quoted, was given in-text attribution, and was sourced to the original. Please also be aware that accusations of copyright violation are serious and should be made only with careful attention to the facts. There was no copyright violation in that addition. It is quite usual to quote respected critics in Critical reception sections. Please undo you reversion. --Stfg (talk) 09:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 21 October 2013[edit]
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Boss Total 6 Days Box Office Collection Report 202.142.118.156 (talk) 07:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Not done Unreliable source. Sohambanerjee1998 08:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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