Talk:Bill & Ted

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Bill & Ted's Excellent Halloween Adventure[edit]

No mention of this ANNUAL show at Halloween Horror Nights? 72.198.102.209 (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs some editing. "Usually starring Reeves and Winter, Christopher Kennedy played Bill and Evan Richards played Ted in the 1992 version of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures." is non-grammatical, and it's not the only example of bad writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.31.160 (talk) 14:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paramount does not own Bill & Ted! MGM OWNS THE RIGHTS[edit]

MGM owns the rights to the films because they own all the movies made by Orion Pictures and Paramount does not own a single right to the franchise. 72.198.102.209 (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC) 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.31.160 (talk) 14:31, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Actually, Paramount has broadcast rights for television. 108.57.93.78 (talk) 20:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Legacy ???[edit]

Shouldn't there be a section on the cultural legacy of Bill & Ted? I mean, there's a whole genre of similar-ish buddy films from Harold and Kumar to others less successful, though many may vary on their subject matter (ie. time travel vs drug use), and I'm guessing there are lots of preceding buddy films that aren't necessarily about bank robbers (Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid), road movies Thelma & Louise, or character studies, or both (Al Pacino and Gene Hackman in Scarecrow (1973 film)), such as Laurel and Hardy or Cheech and Chong. And lets not forget that there certainly is a long list of media meta references to this franchise and shared cultural phenomenon. That's why they're making another sequel. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 17:17, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you think such as section should exist and can find suitable sources then you can start it! If you can even find useful sources and list them here someone else might eventually start it (but that will probably take years).
Good potential sources are retrospective articles celebrating anniversaries, or articles trying to prove the film has ongoing cult status. Some publications do retrospectives "an oral history of" and based on interviews construct a very detailed overview. I expect since the announcement of the 3rd film there was probably a whole new crop of articles. You might even find weird aritcles about teachers using Bill & Ted in the classroom. Mentalfloss articles/listicles aren't great but they can provide a useful jumping off point to finding more sources. If you're looking for older sources the AFI articles [1][2] are heavily referenced and in some cases you can still find the original articles they used as references. -- 109.78.212.59 (talk) 18:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cast and characters[edit]

My edit was reverted for "taking up space that doesn't need to be there." I'm uncertain how, exactly, my version--which condenses twelve rows of text down to four--takes up more space than the previous version, especially when it contains the exact same information. --Wack'd Talk 06:39, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The vision you made was reverted simply because it was a bold claim to assume that Danny Cooksey, Kath Soucie, Bernie Casey were in both seasons of the animated series when there is little no information to tell how long of seasons they were in it for. I'm saying not your vision isn't allowed, but some research definitely needs to be done first. In the meantime, it's being reverted the previous one as it's more simpler to have the series be listed as one. Zucat (talk) 18:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really neccessary to have "Elvis Presley" on the Characters Page? The Bill & Ted Live TV Show is barely any real continuity with the movie series, and "Elvis" would merely be a glorified extra. I think having him on the list would be Undue Weight.

Maxcardun(talk) 10:15, 07 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ted" Theodore vs. Theodore "Ted"[edit]

Recently Theodore "Ted" Logan was changed to "Ted" Theodore Logan in the intro. I understand wanting to reference their names as (repeatedly) given in the films. But it's doubly inconsistent when you consider that Bill's name is written as William "Bill" S. Preston Esq. in the intro and the Premise section, even though he doesn't include William when saying his name. And also in the Premise section, Ted's name is formatted correctly, making it even more confusing. Wondering about the solution of these alterations to the intro and premise.

Intro: Bill & Ted is an American comedy film series featuring Alex Winter (Bill) and Keanu Reeves (Ted), as two metalhead slacker friends who travel through time. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (1989), was followed by a sequel with Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (1991), while Bill & Ted Face the Music began production in June 2019.
Premise: The series follows a pair of two (originally) teenaged slackers living in San Dimas, California in 1988, who refer to themselves as Bill S. Preston Esq. (Alex Winter) and "Ted" Theodore Logan (Keanu Reeves).

I'm tempted to change "refer to themselves" to "aggrandize themselves" or "stylize their names as", just for clarity about the context of when they use their full Stallyn titles. I don't want to suggest that they call one another by those full names in regular conversation. But that seems like unnecessary clarification. Thoughts? CleverTitania (talk) 09:22, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Might just be easier to say in plot "Bill" and "Ted", and then in the cast area, have their "full" names, which then should be presented as spoken in the film. The full name does not affect the plot at all. --Masem (t) 16:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I take your point, but have two concerns with that. Firstly, it's not a plot - because this is a franchise page not a film page - it's a premise. And one could argue that the way they stylize their names throughout the existing series is part of the premise. Second, wouldn't we also usually write the nickname in the center of a full name in the Cast list, i.e. William "Bill" Preston? In which case, it's still lacking consistency to have it written in Ted's "wrong way around" in the cast list.

Though I also just noticed that in the cast grid right now, it has Ted "Theodore" Logan, implying his birth/legal name was Ted and he added Theodore, which I was pretty sure was't accurate. But I just checked the end credits for the first film, and sure enough, "Theodore" is the one in quotes. So this may be a very moot discussion, as his birth/legal name might just be Ted, with the addition of Theodore being similar to Bill's esquire. Going to do a bit of digging later and try to get a secondary confirmation. CleverTitania (talk) 22:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Franchise Photo[edit]

I think it's time to make a change to the main photo of this article. Sure enough that DVD Cover was fine while it lasted but we have a Blu Ray out now that has a more appropriate poster with the words "Bill & Ted's Excellent Collection" on it. I'm not sure how to get the permissions to insert this photo into the article but is there someone who does know how to do this?

Maxcardun(talk) 12:04PM, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


Well that Logo from the latest movie is fine and dandy, but what do we have to go through to upload say... this? https://www.behance.net/gallery/38173997/Bill-Teds-Most-Excellent-Collection Maxcardun (talk) 9:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Kid Cudi is NOT "Station"[edit]

I don't know why people conform to this rumor, I don't know why people try to put it in the character list. There is no official statement, there is no official reveal in Bill & Ted Face the Music. Sir James Martin of Faith No More shouted it, and no one says that he is "Station". "Evil Ted" said it, and nobody said he was "Station". Just because Kid Cudi states a lot of scientific lingo and bows out of the movie saying "Station" doesn't make him the reincarnate of the alien being from Bill & Teds Bogus Journey. If someone tries to put this into Bill & Ted Face The Music, or the Franchise Article it should be removed as Vandalism at the worst. *I like this new format of starting a new topic. Maxcardun (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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