Talk:Bangladeshi cuisine/Archive 1

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Cuisine confusion

It's good to see this article. However, I think some things need to be looked at. Many dishes that are now popular in Bangladesh such as birani and so on are not actually of Bangladeshi origin or are not solely Bangladeshi. So I am unsure how much those belong here. Also, since the article refers to Bangladesh, I believe Gulab Jamun and Rasgulla (Rosogolla) should get their respective Bangla names. Halva should also become Halwa.

Best,

urnonav 23:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree, the topic of the article is very interesting and notable. I don't think the article must be exclusively about dishes originating in Bangladesh, it should also describe what is eaten and consumed by people within the country, wherever the dish comes from. There is a large amount of overlap with the rest of the subcontinent and more specifically with the cuisine of all parts of Bengal, whether currently in Bangladesh or not. In the list of sweets, for example, there are many that are popular throughout South Asia. This article would benefit from additional clarifying of the dishes and ingredients particular to a place and those that are common over a much wider area. As for names, feel free to insert the most commonly used transliterations of Bengali names, but where possible include a link to the article on English WP that explains what the item is e.g. halwa, rosogulla. Regards Guffydrawers (talk) 15:04, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Need to find species of shatkora

The shatkora, a Bengali lime-like citrus fruit used in the cuisine of Sylhet, needs an article and species name. Badagnani 05:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Old Move discussion

The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Already moved.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 19:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Per the naming convention of Wikipedia for country specific topics, those topics that expand outside the geographical region of the country use the "Country topic" format. This is only one of a handful of national cuisine articles that still uses the older "Topic of Country" format. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 14:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Support - Topical articles by country should employ standard uniform titles to avoid confusion. The "Country topic" format is the most appropriate in the case of cuisine. Neelix (talk) 18:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Support. Can't quite see why we need separate move discussions for Bangladeshi, Georgian, Burmese, Cambodian, Macedonian and Indian cuisines, it's not that standardisation is always good but these are have similar issues. Andrewa (talk) 12:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose - Each article is named for a reason and uniformity is thus unnecessary, and, in some cases, undesirable. Redirects exist for each national cuisine article. Badagnani (talk) 20:41, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - if each article is named for conformity, then this move is appropriate because the majority of the cuisine articles are named Country cuisine with the redirect coming from Cuisine of country. Only a dozen or so out of the two hundred+ cuisine articles are named Cuisine of country. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 21:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong support for reasons of naming consistency and conformity with Wikipedia guidelines for naming country-related articles. --Zlerman (talk) 12:16, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Support. not only for standardization, but many of cuisines articles talk about the cuisines outside of the main country and as such are no longer the cuisine of that country, but they are "that style" of cuisine so this change is grammatically correct as well. There needs to be a stop to individual articles having their "own style" as this is academically improper as it will lead to a lack of consistency and possible confusion to the reader, especially when students of culinary arts are looking to these articles for education, like the ones I teach. It is also this lack of consistency that has kept other academics from allowing their students to use Wikipedia for research.--Chef Tanner (talk) 14:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Very strong support for merge with Bengali cuisine. Cuisines do not necessarily have one-to-one correspondence with political entities, and establishing such correspondences by necessarily having an article in the form "Cuisine of X" or "X cuisine" could be misleading. I assume there are some regional (and more likely communal) variations between cuisines inside Bengal, and those should be clearly explained in the Bengali cuisine article. deeptrivia (talk) 19:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment

Canvassing support for article moves

(posted by User:Pakse and removed from discussion page of proposing editor)

Apparently, the naming conventions for cuisine articles are an extremely important issue for you. However, I really think that your behaviour over this article renaming is getting a little out of hand. Canvassing support for your position by posting messages on the talk pages of those who have supported your position in the past is frowned upon on Wikipedia. This kind of votestacking is contrary to policy, see WP:CANVAS. Developing consensus doesn't just mean the consensus that you want. What you have been attempting to do on the cuisine article pages and at WP:RM is attempting to WP:GAME the system. This is disruptive and not conducive to the co-operative atmosphere. A look at various naming convention policy pages show that you have been pursuing this agenda in various fora since at least August this year. Significantly, no clear consensus has ever emerged in any of these discussions - not even in the Food and Drink Wikiproject, where you are very active.

It's clear from your contributions that you are a very valuable contributor to the project. You have done excellent work on many articles particularly related to food and drink. As someone who has read the Burger King article, I personally appreciate your hard work to make that article such an interesting and informative read.

Unfortunately, something seems to have changed. Judging by your recent edit history you have become somewhat fixated on the issue of naming for national cuisine articles. The move logs show that you have personally moved 30+ national cuisine articles in the last week to follow your preferred naming convention. Presumably these were little watched articles where you experienced no immediate opposition to your proposed changes. Currently, you are aggressively arguing, canvassing and using misleading edit summaries to achieve the renaming of another half a dozen articles. This is not how consensus is developed. At a bare minimum, I am politely requesting that you immediately stop canvassing inputs only from editors who support your position on renaming these articles. Badagnani (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Who did he canvass to? This whole project started in WikiProject Food and drink and at Food and drink article guideline where the topics have been discussed and debated.--Chef Tanner (talk) 18:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Shatkora

The citrus called "shatkora" (used in Sylhet) should be mentioned. Badagnani (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Can someone help to improve Citrus macroptera? Badagnani (talk) 06:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Very Poor

The Bangladeshi Cuisine of reality and of this article is a stark disparity. I think this is a do-away with the responsibility to represent the cuisine of formerly the richest state of Greater India. This project really needs some attention especially from a Bangladeshi. Even the cooked cuisine in the photos look really poor and cheap food!

And another thing, I strongly detest the 'list' of food like sweets mentioned here. Do they have no idea what our country has to offer? Only the Mughal Period of sweets would exceed the little variations provided here.

They also lack bangla names for some unknown reason.

HELL what is this? one ...my eyes are okay! ONE! see? just ONE "beverage"!!!!! lol no wonder bangladesh would ever be misrepresented. 180.234.63.97 (talk) 11:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

  • If you see opportunity for improvements, please go ahead. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, so please contribute. Regards Guffydrawers (talk) 15:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Merge discussion

Should this page be merged with Bengali cuisine? --50.185.122.126 (talk) 00:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

No, this is a national cuisine page. Bengali cuisine is regional.--114.134.89.21 (talk) 03:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
No discussion on this topic for almost 5 months??Yohannvt (talk) 09:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose The nominator should understand the difference between Bengal and Bangladeshi. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Bengalis live outside Bangladesh also

West Bengal , Tripura , Barack valley in Assam, north Orissa--C E (talk) 13:00, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

So what??This is an article which only and only refers to Bangladesh.There is an article Bengali Cuisine for all bengalis.I think now you have got your answers. Jobair khondoker (talk) 11:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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A place-Chowk Bazar

There is a picture of Chowk bazar's traditional iftar market,But whenever one goes with tge link He will reach in a very different article,this link reaches to Surat,an indian place.What is this? Jobair khondoker (talk) 11:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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Copied content from Sylheti cuisine

I added content from the Sylheti cuisine to Sylhet and Britain subsections on 3 November 2022.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 21:27, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2023

easten = eaten 2603:8000:D300:D0F:C066:DFF9:D743:49D7 (talk) 02:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 02:06, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
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