Talk:Babirusa/Archive 1

Archive 1

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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Babyrousa → Babirusa — Request move to unambiguous common name for this genus, currently a redirect here. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:37, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Support: well-established, unambiguous common name for the genus. Whether the common names of the species are sufficiently well-established, I am less sure. Ucucha 15:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The species names are not confusing, since they are geographic, and refer to a recently split species. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

That is true, but does not address my argument. The IUCN prefers other names for each of the three babirusas currently at their common names, for example, and MSW 3 uses a different name for B. togeanensis. The species have several different common names and none is used by a lot of sources; therefore, I don't think the common names are sufficiently well-established to be used on Wikipedia. Ucucha 16:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

On closer examination it surprisingly seems you are right. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 17:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Removal of info

Seeing that a user added a fair deal of generally good info, I think it is only fair I provide a brief explanation for why certain things were removed: First, I removed the comment on babirusa being correct plural of babirusa, as the referenced provided does not support the claim, and at least some high quality sources ([1]) suggests it is incorrect. Secondly, it was stated that only bats and the babyrusa are native to Sulawesi or Sula, but this is incorrect: There are numerous other groups native to the islands (both or either), e.g. macaques, anoas, cuscus, rodents (incl. several endemic genera of squirrels; Prosciurillus & Rubrisciurus), etc. It was stated that Christians on Sulawesi are not agrarian and that may well have been true historically, but it is certainly not anymore. I removed other sections as they are specifically for the north Sulawesi babirusa (info already in that species' article), but are incorrect for the remaining species. Finally, I moved some of the taxonomy back into the lead, as the recent changes are highly significant and commonly not known to people only familiar the THE babirusa (a problem also evident by some of the things removed, which fit the N. Sulawesi, but not other). • Rabo³ • 16:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Tusks grow to penetrate own skull?

I have to admit I first thought that this was straight Wikipedia vandalism, but after searching around it is in fact mentioned in a few places. However, at best it seems speculation.

• http://books.google.com/books?id=bsNBaYNTDB0C&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=babirusa+tusk+penetrate+skull&source=bl&ots=RgkrQUoPWL&sig=A24D65D0aDf0Z-y-W8aasrw5Fy8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hirLUM_IGYrS9AS89IEQ&ved=0CE4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=babirusa%20tusk%20penetrate%20skull&f=false
• http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/03/08/babirusa-impales-own-head/

Any thoughts on this? I'm not a zoologist unfortunately. Julius.kusuma (talk) 13:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

That picture on the second link looks quite convincing.96.238.211.171 (talk) 00:13, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Is this the only type of Pig who's Tusks grow in a way to make it look like a Horned animal?

Or is it possible that sometimes of "Horned Pig" could have been known in Ancient Israel?--JaredMithrandir (talk) 16:09, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Babyrousa celebensis - Crane.jpg to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Babyrousa celebensis - Crane.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on May 13, 2017. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2017-05-13. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Picture of the day

Skull of a male North Sulawesi babirusa, a species from the pig family endemic to Indonesia. Babirusas are notable for the long upper canines in the males that emerge vertically from the alveolar process, penetrating though the skin and curving backward over the front of the face and towards the forehead.Photograph: Didier Descouens

Relationship with humans

The article does not indicate why they are hunted. Are they killed because they are destructive? For their tusks or hides? For their meat? Do Muslims consider them pigs and therefore inedible?Bill (talk) 18:43, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

All the members of Suid family is considered pigs and is haram to eat in islam. In fact all the odd toed ungulates are also haram meat Ishan87 (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Etymology

Mention rusa means deer, babi means pig, like wiktionary:babirusa does.

Size

Please someone add some reliable height, length and weight estimations for these animals. This page seems to have a huge lack of important informations about these creatures. Ishan87 (talk) 16:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)