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Fictional/factual?[edit]

Why does it say "fictional deity"? That's redundant.

First off, please place your post under a heading. That's the == text in between two equals signs ==. Second off, a "fictional deity" is differentiated from a "real deity" by the fact that there are, or were, cultures that actually worshiped the deity in question. This is simply the definition that atheists would also agree with (assuming they are not simply trying to piss people off, rather than contribute to discussion, as I have seen occur a number of times). For other differences between fictional and factual deities, see the Existence of God article, and apply the arguments found on or linked to by that page to the progenitor deity of your choice. Finally, when making a post on a talk page, please sign with four tildes (~). 207.228.60.204 (talk) 08:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crawling madness, or, humor[edit]

FAST-TALK AZATHOTH: You can confuse the blind nuclear chaos at the centre of the universe with your quick wits.

Prerequisites: Bluff 10 ranks, Improved Initiative.

Benefit: You may, when confronted by a being of cosmological power and rage so vast it flows around the universe, attempt a DC 20 Bluff check to render the being effectively stunned for one round. Making this check is a full-round action.

Special: You may retry this check in each round that you are in the presence of such a being and are not consumed.

This is from Post #67 Things you've seen in games that are so dumb, you should've beaten players senseless.

Actually that looks more like post 68:

Ok, the beating stories.

All these horrible memories have floated to the surface of my brain now.

Call of Cthulhu: A charachter annoyed the GM so much she opened a dimensional rift under him and had him meet Azathoth.

Player: I have fast talk as a skill, I'm going to fast talk Azathoth.

He managed to fast talk Azathoth for 20 minutes before being consumed. The best part was that he seemed proud of being able to do this.

That probably takes the prize as the dumbest thing, though I'm sure I'll read more of these stories and remember something else I wish I hadn't...

Funnier the way you put it tho' --maru 02:25, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Buh ... buh ... but Azathoth can't speak!! It has zero intelligence! True, for the humour value I might allow it, but still... Reminds me of the time a player tried to outstare Yog-Sothoth (when being granted a wish, no less). --Sir Ophiuchus 00:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Short Story[edit]

Isn't Azathoth also a short story by H.P. Lovecraft?

Yes; or rather, there is an unfinished short story by H. P. Lovecraft which is titled [Azathoth (short story)|Azathoth]. Thoughts on whether the two should be merged? -Elizabennet 16:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

General comments/questions[edit]

First of all, this page says that The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath was the first story to mention Azathoth, but Lovecraft's unfinished short story Azathoth was written before the Dream-Quest (although Azathoth is only mentioned in the title). Also, do other people think that the Azathoth (short story) page should be merged with this one? I think so, but am open to people disagreeing with me. Third, I don't think that this article is start-class- I feel that it is higher than that. It is at least B-class, and with a few edits (and the possible merging) should be considered a good article and A-Class. I think that it is well-written, and factually accurate (except for the one comment I made above). :) -Elizabennet 16:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been thinking about merging this article with Azathoth (short story)--and also merging Nyarlathotep with Nyarlathotep (short story). In general, I want to emphasize the out-of-universe perspective in WP's Cthulhu Mythos material by focusing on the works of fiction rather than the elements within those fictions, but in these cases I think the fictional entities of Azathoth and Nyarlathotep are so much more important than the stories by those names that it would be OK to merge the articles about the stories into the articles about the entities. If you don't merge at all, you've got the problem of large amounts of duplication, because it's hard to explain the inspiration for the entity without explaining the inspiration for the story, and vice versa.

I'm sort of thinking the opposite kind of merge should be used on Dunwich and Innsmouth--there's no significant mention of Dunwich in Lovecraft's fiction outside The Dunwich Horror, and barely more about Innsmouth beyond The Shadow Over Innsmouth--and all stories by other writers set in those towns are also sequels to those stories. So it seems like the towns could be discussed as elements in the stories.

I have an idea for fixing the factual issue in this article which I'll demonstrate by doing. Nareek 19:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flying Spaghetti Monster?[edit]

The flying spaghetti monster totally looks like Azathoth. Is this just a coincidence, or more?
I think it should be mentioned anyway. It’s too cool to be left unmentioned. :)
— 88.77.184.75 (talk) 08:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually azathoth is considered to be an Formless being that is omnipresent the picture depicts azathoth in space with an alien like form 950CMR (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Azathi?[edit]

Just found that Japanese version of this article mention Azathi as Azathoth's spawns, from Brian Lumley's Elysia. Curious, I google abit and found some info, but while this beings seem to be legitomate ones, I still can't find reliable source to add it here. L-Zwei (talk) 03:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the news[edit]

Apparently, someone created a monument with Azathoth's name on it and plunked it down in front of a restaurant in Oklahoma.^[1]^[2] I'm not sure where to put it, since it doesn't fit in any of the categories.--Auric talk 17:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bricken, Rob (29 August 2013). "Why an Oklahoman restaurant has a monument to the dark god Azathoth". io9. Retrieved 30 August 2013.
^ Kuruvilla, Carol (28 August 2013). "Monument to 'god of chaos' mysteriously appears in front of Oklahoma City restaurant". New York Daily News. Retrieved 30 August 2013.

Name's origin[edit]

Is it possible that its name derived from sumerian demon Asag, from Lugal-e myth? (in many places, in the same wiki page as well, I found its name written as Azag)

--Filoberto (talk) 13:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We would need published mainstream academic sources that say that's where Lovecraft came up with the name to assert that. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Bricken, Rob (29 August 2013). "Why an Oklahoman restaurant has a monument to the dark god Azathoth". io9. Retrieved 30 August 2013.

[2] Kuruvilla, Carol (28 August 2013). "Monument to 'god of chaos' mysteriously appears in front of Oklahoma City restaurant". New York Daily News. Retrieved 30 August 2013.

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