Talk:Austrian euro coins
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coin sizes[edit]
Hello. These images have not been scaled down. They are larger in size than the actual coin size, but the size is according to the Drewery Scale of proportion specifically designed for the euro coins. If they need to be made smaller- so be it, but the larger image shows more detail.
Any thoughts? Theeuro 04:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Mintage Quantities[edit]
I can't image a reason for anyone to object to putting mintage quantities in these articles, however before I continue to add these quantities to the "sister articles", has anyone any objection to the layout of this information? Kevin hipwell (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- After giving it some thought, it would make more sense to display the face value along horizontal cells and the years along vertical cells, I think this would be better because there will always be an addition of years as time goes by and no addition of denominations, so when updated the presentation of the table wont be comprimised.Kevin hipwell (talk) 01:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Here is a comparison
| Face Value [1] | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| €2.00 | 196.400.000 | 4.700.000 | 2.500.000 | /// | 2.300.000 | /// | ??? |
| €1.00 | 223.500.000 | 150.000 | 2.600.000 | 2.600.000 | 7.700.000 | 41.100.000 | ??? |
| €0.50 | 169.100.000 | 9.100.000 | 3.100.000 | 3.100.000 | 3.200.000 | 3.000.000 | ??? |
| €0.20 | 203.400.000 | 50.900.000 | 54.800.000 | 4.100.000 | 8.200.000 | 45.000.000 | ??? |
| €0.10 | 441.600.000 | 10.000 | 5.200.000 | 5.200.000 | 40.000.000 | 81.300.000 | ??? |
| €0.05 | 217.000.000 | 108.500.000 | 89.300.000 | 66.100.000 | 5.600.000 | 52.700.000 | ??? |
| €0.02 | 326.400.000 | 118.500.000 | 156.400.000 | 163.200.000 | 39.800.000 | 72.200.000 | ??? |
| €0.01 | 378.400.000 | 10.800.000 | 115.000.000 | 174.700.000 | 48.300.000 | 111.900.000 | ??? |
| /// = has not been minted, ??? = unknown as of yet | |||||||
&
| Face Value [2] | €0.01 | €0.02 | €0.05 | €0.10 | €0.20 | €0.50 | €1.00 | €2.00 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2002 | 378.400.000 | 326.400.000 | 217.000.000 | 441.600.000 | 203.400.000 | 169.100.000 | 223.500.000 | 196.400.000 |
| 2003 | 10.800.000 | 118.500.000 | 108.500.000 | 10.000 | 50.900.000 | 9.100.000 | 150.000 | 4.700.000 |
| 2004 | 115.000.000 | 156.400.000 | 89.300.000 | 5.200.000 | 54.800.000 | 3.100.000 | 2.600.000 | 2.500.000 |
| 2005 | 174.700.000 | 163.200.000 | 66.100.000 | 5.200.000 | 4.100.000 | 3.100.000 | 2.600.000 | /// |
| 2006 | 48.300.000 | 39.800.000 | 5.600.000 | 40.000.000 | 8.200.000 | 3.200.000 | 7.700.000 | 2.300.000 |
| 2007 | 111.900.000 | 72.200.000 | 52.700.000 | 81.300.000 | 45.000.000 | 3.000.000 | 41.100.000 | /// |
| 2008 | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? |
| /// = has not been minted, ??? = unknown as of yet, --- = only minted for sets | ||||||||
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin hipwell (talk • contribs) 02:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- It is better with the year on the left instead of the denomination. Cheers. The € • T/C 04:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Kevin, apologies for the delay I am behind in catching up with Wikipedia now a days. I second Theeuro, the years on the left is better since they will continue growing, so teh table will expand downwards instead of to the right.
- Also, on a similar topic, what di you mean by "/// = has not been minted, ??? = unknown as of yet, --- = only minted for sets"?
- Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- (///) represents no mintage, (???) represents unknown mintage, and (---) represents mintage of the coin for sets only.
- Perhaps this is a little unclear. Kevin hipwell (talk) 07:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Rephrasing, so I can be clear with myself:
- /// = 0 coins minted
- --- = 0 coins for circulation, although some proof sets where minted, quantity unknown
- ??? = N/A (not available yet)
correct? I might do a slight change so this information looks clearer.
Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes that is correct, do whatever changes you think is necessary to make it clearer.Kevin hipwell (talk) 07:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Kevin,
I have done slight changes in the layout, let me know what you think. I can easily apply that for the other pages.
On a similar topic, reading the Austrian quantities, it was a bit odd for me that year 2007 they mintead almost all nominations in huge quantities but no 2 euro coins, which is supposed to be the year that the new map was introduced. So I went to check the source to see how come Austria minted no 2 euro coins with the new map. Then I saw that they have two extra collumns (2 Euro CC and 2 Euro CC2); which means that Austria in 2005 and 2007, decided to mint only 2 euro commemorative coins, and no normal 2 euro coins. Shouldn't those quantities be somewhere in the table too? I think one extra collumn for 2 euro commemorative is enough. What's yu opinion?
Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 05:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Miguel, Yes I was aware that Austria never minted the normal €2 in 2005, 2007 quite unfortunate.
- You are correct to insist that the €2 CC be added as they also circulate,
- I excluded the €2 CC simply because another article covered them but this is no reason they should be excluded.
- I think it would be necessary to have the 2 columns for CC as in 2007 many issued 2 €2 CC, it would quite contradictory to include the €2 CC and then treat the 2 €2 CC as though they where 1 coin.
- BTW, your change to the "notes" is much better.Kevin hipwell (talk) 15:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Kevin,
- I've changed it slightly again, let me know what you think. I agree in principle with having two collumns for the 2euro comm. but Austria barely mints commemorative coins, so I do not see the need for two collums in this article, in ther other of course. I have also reduced the table size, looks more compact and easier to read in low resolutions (learning from my own problems) :)
- Reading the table again something caught my attention immediately: the low mintage for 10c coins in 2003. There should be a reason for that and it should be added to the table (if it is true), since the number looks like a mistake. Do you know the reason?
- Let me know your opinion, and of course feel free to change the table layout back to what it was if you disagree with the changes. Regards, Miguel.mateo (talk) 23:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the low mintage of 10c 2003, the central bank annual report of 2003 says that the mintage was 81 million, clearly very different, however it seems that the annual reports give different mintages for all the coins of all the years, I will have to confirm the reliability of the sources link: [1].I will ask the currency center when I ring them about my order.
- I think for the mintage numbers it would be best to have 'M' after each value eg: 378.4M to indicate the million as the text doesn't stand out enough IMO.
- Of course Austria hasn't ever issued 2 €2 CC in the same year so it is unnecessary to have 2 columns, although this will not be the case next year.Kevin hipwell (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am going to try find more sources for mintages to determine the accuracy of the current list Kevin hipwell (talk) 02:11, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- It appears that in 2003 the only Austrian 10c coins where in sets, 125.000 in BU & 25.000 in Proof.
- Source: Austrian Mint issue values — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin hipwell (talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Are you taking a review to the quantities already posted in the article? If not I can do that tomorrow as well ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 11:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Although I think the current source euro-auflagen is a great wealth of info, I would prefer to use the Austrian website as the source, as it is more "official".
- I don't mind if you want to do that, as there is still a lot to be done such as:
- finish the Gold & Silver articles.
- bring up a discussion to include place of mint.
- continue the work on the Euro proof set article.
- Find out what "Diamond Quality" is (Finland sets)
- review all mintage quantities
- "sisterize" all the euro coin articles (basically that they are all coherent with each other)
- create and complete an article for euro BU/FDC sets7
- and probably more I haven't thought about yet. Kevin hipwell (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh men, you do have immagination! I can forthsee a long path to go here ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Circulating Mintage quantities". Henning Agt. Retrieved 2008-08-19.
- ^ "Circulating Mintage quantities". Henning Agt. Retrieved 2008-08-19.
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