Talk:Asahi Linux

A fact from Asahi Linux appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that you can now run Linux on an Apple-silicon Mac?

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Arzg (talk · contribs) This user has declared a connection. (Lead the GPU reverse-engineering / driver effort)
Marcan (talk · contribs) This user has declared a connection. (Project lead)

Some more references[edit]

This page is pretty sparse -- here are some more sources for further content. I've omitted articles focusing on the m1racles bug which I think is out of scope for this article, it's already (rightfully) covered on marcan's biography.

(I would work on this myself but I have a COI)

ZDnet [1] [2]
Golem.de (German language) [3] [4]
Arstechnica [5]
Linux-magazin [6]

Arzg (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Arzg: Thanks for the links, I knew it was pretty sparse when I created it, but it was better than nothing. I'll look into expanding it. PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded the article quite a bit as the recent alpha release has meant there is a lot more coverage in sources, so it's no longer a stub. Arzg, you have my complete and utter support with getting the GPU acceleration working; having an alternative OS that can be supported forever and ever is a major step forward for these Macs, and once the core firmware support is in place, the open source nature will mean development and support will explode and give macOS a run for its money. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers :-) Arzg (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 02:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that you can now run Linux on an Apple silicon Mac? Source: "Asahi Linux aims to bring you a polished Linux® experience on Apple Silicon Macs." https://asahilinux.org
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rachel Dyer

5x expanded by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook sounds a bit like an ad, but article is neutral Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted to Prep 6. Z1720 (talk) 02:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"recruited" text is misleading[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

The page says "Martin announced the project in December 2020, and formally started it a month later, after securing funding of around $4,000 per month. Alyssa Rosenzweig, who developed the open source graphics driver stack Panfrost, was recruited to help work on support for the Apple Silicon graphics processing unit (GPU).[5]".

I was not "recruited", Asahi is a hobby project for me, not something I'm paid for.

The cited ref says only "The Asahi project today also announced it had gained the help of Alyssa Rosenzweig", which doesn't have those implications.

I would appreciate if this could be amended, before citogenesis kicks in ;-) Thanks! -Arzg (talk) 16:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed this to "Alyssa Rosenzweig, who developed the open source graphics driver stack Panfrost, joined the project to help support the Apple silicon graphics processing unit (GPU)". In my view, you don't need to be paid to be "recruited" to anything, you just need to be recognised as an important and useful contributor; however, the revised wording may make more sense. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making the change. The revised wording is much clearer. Cheers, Arzg (talk) 01:21, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

COI disclosure / misc issues[edit]

For the record, I made a trivial edit earlier today to correct a factual error (the cited source for the Rust issue was misinterpreted by the original editor as relating to all software written in Rust, while it in fact referred to the Rust compiler itself). As the project lead I have an obvious COI, so I do not intend to engage in any substantial editing or maintenance in the article; I just thought that fix was trivial and unlikely to cause any controversy.

Other issues worth changing if anyone wants to take a look:

What User:Arzg mentioned above.
Technically only certain builds of Rust do not work; for example, the version shipped with Debian does. It is not a fundamental problem with Rust, but rather merely a build configuration problem affecting the jemalloc library which it can optionally use.
Chromium is fixed and release 102 should include the fix.
The link to Page address register should be changed to Page (computer memory). The cited source does mention "page registers", but that is a mistake in the source. It should not be hard to find other sources that correctly describe the issue as relating to "16K pages".

Marcan (talk) 12:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcan: I've fixed all of these. The credit for Arzg is described above. The Rust issue I have clarified as "some existing releases [of the compiler] did not work", implying the issue is in the past and is now resolved. I wasn't sure what link should be used to describe the 16K page issue, but I'm happy to defer to your knowledge.

On a personal note, I don't have enough disk space on my M1 Mac Mini to test out Asahi Linux, but as soon as I get hold of a docking station with an M2 slot, I'll give it a go. I assume it can boot off external drives? Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]