Talk:Armaments Race

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Notability[edit]

@Piotrus: I've found some light coverage and I'd say that this is probably notable, but I'm hitting a definite wall when it comes to things that are easily accessible online. If I could access the book I put in the further reading section I'd probably be able to muster a stronger argument for notability since it looks like it's discussed more there and I could use it for a themes section, but otherwise this is sort of weak sauce for me as far as stories go. I get the impression it's likely discussed more elsewhere but have no actual evidence that would make me feel more secure.

I'm starting to be more of the opinion that we need an article that has brief summaries of Clarke's short stories along with where it was first published, a short overview, and a couple of sentences about themes or whatnot. If a story is definitely independently notable, the given section for the story could link to the article for said story. That way we'd have an article with info about the stories for borderline cases like these but without turning it into a simple list. I just don't know how unwieldy the article would be. One day I'll actually start a draft to try it out. XD ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ReaderofthePack: Is there a discussion about this story somewhere that I'm unaware of that you're referencing? FWIW; I wrote this article in my earliest days on Wikipedia, before I had a solid understanding of notability. However, I think it's fairly safe to say that Clarke's stature merits coverage for the book under NBOOK#5. I don't necessarily oppose an overview article, but he has written a lot of short stories, and I believe individual pages for these are likely more useful. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93: Piotrus and I are going through the articles in the sci-fi short story stub category and trying to improve them. There is the potential for some to get nominated for deletion in some form or fashion, but most of those will likely be from authors who aren't of Clarke's stature. Offhand I'm generally more inclined to see him as someone who is such a notable pioneer that his works are automatically notable, TBH. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thank you. I think that's an important task, and we certainly have short articles we likely should not. In my experience these tend to be pieces about in-universe content, like character bios and settings, much more often than about the stories themselves; nonetheless, I appreciate that you are checking. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ReaderofthePack, nice find with the Poland reference :) This probably still fails GNG although NBOOK#5 is interesting, and I guess we can leave it be for few years while we deal with worse articles (about which there is totally no reception...). PS. I did some digging, sadly I cannot access the full text of the reference you linked (my uni doesn't subscribe to it and it is not in LibGen). What I found is that the story was published in a short-lived fanzine ([1]/[2]; and if this is the translation that is being referred to, I am unsure if fanzines were subject to censorship at all). PPS. More digging found it was published even earlier, in 1975, in a monthly popular science magazine pl:Problemy (czasopismo), [3], which probably was subject to some censorship. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]