Talk:Ae Dil Hai Mushkil

Stars of the film

Saif Ali Khan is NOT replacing Fawad Khan in this film. This was a baseless rumor that has already been cleared. Please STOP being bigots and appreciate art and cinema. Again, according to media sources, Fawad Afzal Khan is playing the role of Ali in this film and Saif Ali Khan or any other star is NOT replacing him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.22.74 (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Fawad Kahn is not starring in the film, he is just in a special appearance role, only Bachchan, Kapoor and Sharma are the lead stars of the film. The infobox should have only the leading stars of the film. Barthateslisa (talk) 09:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

This looks fixed. Best, Nairspecht (talk) (work) 12:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

No Salman Khan is starring in the film. He is not just a cameo. After Bachan, Kapoor and Sharma. He is the most important character. The trailer also reveal the same. Tupur16 (talk) 14:43, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Even I share a link about it. He is supporting lead of the movie not just a special appearance. Tupur16 (talk) 14:45, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

That is your POV, in the trailer and on the poster only three actors are named, Kapoor, Bachchan and Sharma, not Khan. Plus he is a junior actor in terms of seniority in Bollywood. The source you provided is a gossip column, not an announcement from the production. Barthateslisa (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Okay agree with youBarthateslisa (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2016 (UTC). But you also have to agree that he is playing much more important role then Lisa and Deepti and please look at the trailer carefully.After Sharma,Kapoor And Bachan is anyone mentioned in the trailer it is Fawad Khan. Here is the prove. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PODraXg4E — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tupur16 (talk • contribs)

Salman Khan also playing very important role.

Again, its your POV, Wikipedia doesn't work on POVs. He is a junior actor, is in a minor role in the film, a special appearance not at all a leading role. Hence below others on the list. Barthateslisa (talk) 16:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I cannot find any solution for casting in WP:MOSFILM, but I am sure that we should stick to the film's billing. Since the film has a website, we should stick to the information contained there. As per the site's "Cast and Crew" section, Kapoor, Bachchan, and Sharma are playing the lead roles. After these actors, the director and the music producer are listed, only after which Khan is mentioned. However, if you notice, the site isn't updated frequently. But, if we go by this site (and I think we should), we can list Fawad Khan after the three aforementioned actors under the "Cast" section, despite him being a junior actor. That should in now way influence his listing. However, let's not add him in the infobox, as "starring" credits are different from "appearing" credits. So, can we reach a swift consensus on this? Best, Nairspecht (talk) (work) 07:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Khan is a junior actor, barely two movies old, and by most reports, he is in a minor or special role in the film. I think we should leave the order of the list as it is and should wait for further disclosure by production. The list even in current shape is fulfilling the task of letting the readers know who all are appearing in the movie. Sharma, Kapoor and Bachchan are the 3 lead hence should be the only one in the info box. The list according to me is in a satisfying shape as of now, we can further wait for the release. Barthateslisa (talk) 10:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll also suggest that we wait for more people to join this discussion. Apart from that, I do not think that an actor's history of films should affect the cast listing. Best, Nairspecht (talk) (work) 10:46, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@ Kapoor, Sharma, Khan, Bachan all are the key role of the movie but it is confirmed that Kapoor and Sharma are main lead of the movie. If Bachan is a lead role of the movie then Khan is also another lead role of the movie because Khan had played a very important part in the movie and in the movie Khan had almost same screen appearence as like as Bachan. So I want to suggest Khan and Bachan's name as parralel lead in the wikipedia page. I know that Khan's name was taking less then other lead characters of the movie for knowing the reason please check this link(http://www.deccanchronicle.com/entertainment/bollywood/230916/why-is-fawad-khans-name-missing-from-the-ae-dil-hai-mushkil-credits.html) Ominictionary (talk)

Fawad Khan is most important character after Aishwariya thus his name deserve 4th place please change itIshi2345 (talk) Ishi2345 (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

In which basic Fawad Khan is in number 6 position in star cast. He should be in 4. He is parallel lead of the movie.Vividha23 (talk) Vividha23 (talk) 22:22, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

As per Indian express, Fawad Khans plays a very important role in the movie, and also his previous role in Kapoor and Sons establishes that he is not a minor character in any of his roles in previous bollywood movies Nickelroy (talk) 10:32, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what one article in Indian Express says, as per the production and credits he is only in a special appearance not part of the lead star cast of the film. Don't add your POV. Barthateslisa (talk) 11:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

He is not starring. Period. Moreover, "starring" is not the same as "appearing in". Best, Jean Stair (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

English translation

Folks, any help on the literal translation (with or without sources) of the title would be appreciated. Best, Nairspecht (talk) (work) 13:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Controversy section

I noticed that there was an attempt to add a "controversy" section, and that was removed later. There are news articles like this, and I feel a short section can be added. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Doing it. Nairspecht (talk) 08:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks [[User:Nairspecht --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:19, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2016

122.177.97.104 (talk) 07:35, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
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Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:33, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Casting Order

According to the casting order in the screening of the movie at the cinema hall, according to official announcement at Dharma production's official website (http://www.dharma-production.com/news/ae-dil-hai-mushkil-release-date-announcement/208 and http://www.dharma-production.com/news/karan-johar-s-next--ae-dil-hai-mushkil-/186) and according to the official youtube channel that released the trailer, the casting order of the leads is Aishwarya Rai, Ranbir Kapoor and Anushka Sharma. Even in the lack of official sources, it would have been obvious as Aishwarya is the most senior actor on the list. I have added the sources to the page 3 times, and there has been continued vandalism. Discuss here before altering the cast again, please. Thanks Pppooojjjaaa (talk) 12:55, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Listen It doesnt if which actor/actress is senior in movie its about the movie according to the movie ranbir and anushkaand aishwarya are the main cast of the film and ranbir and anushka had more scenes in the movie so thats why their name should be at the top and talking about fawad he is not extended cameo extended cameos are imran abbas and lisa haydon because fawad had more scenes then them so he is worthy of #6 but his name should be after the main cast and others after him because the others are special appearences and cameos. COLOUR SWITCH (talk) 16:03, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Lisa and Abbas are not notable and are in character roles only. Fawda Khan is a notable actor but not in a full fledge role, his is classified as a cameo. Barthateslisa (talk) 16:10, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

COLOUR SWITCH- yes, philosophically it might not matter. But officially it matters. And the official credits will be used for wikipedia articles. Thanks for your understanding Pppooojjjaaa (talk) 21:58, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Cast order

Please discuss before changing the cast order of the film. Thanks BlueGreenYellowRed (talk) 17:24, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi BlueGreenYellowRed! What should be discussed, if one thing is credited in movie... I only arranged in the way it was shown in the end of the movie. I said that the name of "Alia Bhatt" and "Neha Dhupia" has not been credited.

Also, there should be poster for the film, not for the teaser. Anything else? Hope you understand. M. Billoo 07:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure that is how it was in the credits of the movie, if you have a source for your claim please cite here. Also, Wikipedia doesn't necessary follow the credit list from the movie itself. The lead cast is mentioned first in order of seniority. The fact that Neha Dhupia and Alia Bhatt were in the movie is established, saying that just coz they were not credited in the end of the movie doesn't make it false. Thanks.

As far as the poster is concerned, it is the poster of the film itself, there is nothing such as the "poster of a teaser". The poster using the three main stars is the most widely used one in other mediums as well. Thanks. BlueGreenYellowRed (talk) 07:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

@BlueGreenYellowRed: Check your-added poster closely, "Teaser premieres at..." is written clearly! If you think it is widely used poster, than make it clear too that the other one was also the "film poster". If you want to show lead stars of film, find suitable poster without "Teaser..." line. What source you need for the "credits-ordering in film"? And I didn't removed "Alia Bhatt" and "Neha Dhupia", this is what you know. Hope you understand, Thanks! M. Billoo 15:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Let me clarify once again, there is nothing such as "teaser poster", nowhere does it says its a "teaser poster". Its an officially launched poster of the movie, the onus of providing source is on you, if you can prove that it is a "teaser poster" and not the poster for the film itself. Its a film poster which also mentions and shows the lead star cast of the film. I hope I made it clear. Thanks. BlueGreenYellowRed (talk) 15:41, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Critical Reception section

The opening line says: "Ae Dil Hai Mushkil received critical acclaim, with most of the praise being directed towards the leading cast and soundtrack, while the plot and the direction had been met with positive reviews. "

This is a complete misrepresentation. The sources below that line tell that as well. Where does "critical acclaim" come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonoz (talk • contribs) 11:28, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Plot

Is Saba older than Ayan?Bunny Sweety (talk) 01:42, 4 October 2017 (UTC)