Talk:Adlai Stevenson II/Archive 1

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Stevenson's opposition to McCarthyism

Seems to me that this article is severly lacking in neglecting mention of Stevenson's opposition to McCarthyist smear tactics and his villification by McCarthy as retaliation. Adlai Stevenson, as a democratic anticommunist, despised and took a stand to McCarthy's demonization of any and all left-of-center politicians as "communist sympathizers" (more than could be said about the other important liberal anticommunist, JFK) and for this reason was slandered himself by McCarthy. None of this appears in this article. 79.103.70.142 (talk) 00:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

Having played Final Fantasy 3/6, I find the following confusing: "It is speculated by many that the character Gogo in certain games of the popular RPG franchise Final Fantasy is actually based on Adlai Stevenson.". GoGo is a homeless shapeshifter. Can someone clarify or is this nonsense? User:GilloD

• Assuming you're on the level, which I have no reason not to believe, it's definitely a joke and it be gone. Wahkeenah 10:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Surprisingly, the reference is not completely nonsense, even if it is highly unlikely. See "Q: Who is Gogo?" here: an online guide for Final Fantasy III on GameFAQs. BambookidX 01:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
• I'm well aware of the game character (As a kid, I think I played through FF3/6 some 6 or 7 times), I just completely don't understand the association between them. Ah! I see the page on the FAQ, but. If I were to start an in joke with my buddies ("I think President Bush IS Neil Armstrong!") and even it's meme-worthy, it really doesn't have a place on the page. User:GilloD
• Oh, wow. I didn't even see this discussion. I just edited the page to include this information. I'd suggest you guys take a look at it, since the evidence is pretty striking (and pretty humorous), but since there's a consensus that it doesn't belong, I'll revert it to its original state. Egendomligt 01:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

In the Film Annie Hall, Woody Allen meets his first wife at an Adlai Stevenson rally where he performs a show.

Quotes

Hm, this page currently contains more quotes than the wikiquote page it references - could somebody who would know perhaps pick out a couple of really famous ones from here, and move the rest over there? (if that makes sense). I don't want to move them all, in case some of them are really really famous, but being from the wrong side of the pond and all, I'd have no clue which ones... - IMSoP 19:48, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Is this a joke? Citing, in full, quotes that aren't Stevensons and are merely part of some abscure internet rumour about a character in a video game? A minor character (he has 4 lines at most) at that? Beyond absurd.Bizud 22:29, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

assault

I removed this from the article, as it may not be important to the article and is improperly worded.

The Pantagraph today (Nov 22, 2005) reported that Adalai Stevenson was assaulted in Dallas exactly one month before JFK's assasination in Dallas. I found corroborating account [in this article] and in this [FBI report].

Please re-add a comment on the assault if appropriate. --DDerby-(talk) 08:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

This is a widely-reported fact, and I don't think it needs to be over-cited as that one author did. It also doesn't need too much detail, as the assassination is well-covered elsewhere. I do think it's important as a "linking" event, as Stevenson was a strong figure in the U.N. and some Dallasite whacked him in the head with a protest sign (he was bloodied but not seriously injured) and that was one reason that some in the JFK circle were worried about Dallas. Oswald was not a Dallasite, though, he was just living there. I left that part out because it's straying a bit too far off-topic. Wahkeenah 13:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The line:

"That assault contributed to the viewpoint that Dallas was filled with right-wingers hostile to JFK." I think that a reference is needed on this, and even then it just seems spurious. Who's viewpoint? The JFK Administration, the general public, and someone else? It also could be suggestive that the assassination of JFK was something from the American political right. Oswald's defection and associations with Soviets and Marxists and his identification as a Communist sympathizer would suggest this isn't true.

• It comes up every time there's an in-depth TV special on the assassination. It was thought that Dallas was a risky place to go politically, and JFK went anyway. They weren't expecting a commie sympathizer to shoot him, though. The people of Dallas were horrified by this chain of events and felt it brought shame to their city. There was a popular song around that time called "Big D" (little-a, double-l, a, s) that abruptly disappeared from airplay. Then there was the line from Dr. Strangelove that was overdubbed from "Dallas" to "Vegas". It's hard for the younger generation to realize how powerful the psychological impact was. Baseball Bugs 00:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I hate to say this...

...but doesn't way too much of this article come word for word from here? Nareek 03:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Ummmmmm...is Adlai Stevenson's first name pronounced Ad-lay, Ad-lee, or Ad-lye? Soldierboy753 08:55, 19 November 2006

For the Love of God, there has to be a better picture of Adlai Stevenson than that one...someone please find one and put it on... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.169.190 (talk) 01:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• I don't know what he called himself, but in the spoken media it was usually pronounced "AD-lay" sometimes "AD-lye" and never or hardly ever "AD-lee", except maybe by the types who said "VEET-nam" instead of "VEE-YET-nahm". Wahkeenah 02:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

...the date of your picture of Stevenson displaying the Cuban missiles is marked "November 1962" instead of "October 1962"....Sorry guys...

Expansion

Adlai Stevenson was a very famous politician and i'm sure there are plenty of biographies that could give you a more detailed summary of his life, I know I'll be looking. Registered User 92

An excellent full-length biography of Stevenson is Adlai Stevenson: His Life and Legacy by Porter McKeever. McKeever was a State Department official and a friend and supporter of Stevenson. However, his bio of Stevenson is surprisingly objective and very well-written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.229.162 (talk) 03:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Renaming

I looked at all the other Alai's, and they are all marked as I, II, III, and IV. Currently Adlai Stevenson II redirects to this page. I believe the article should be renamed as "Adlai Stevenson II".--Royalmate1 (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

This Adlai Stevenson is, I think, a primary topic. john k (talk) 15:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles?

I thought Adlai Stevenson was born in China. If not Stevenson, what presidential candidate was born in China?  Randall Bart   Talk  23:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

None. No candididate has ever been born in china nor will one ever be. You have to have been born in the U.S. to run for president.--Royalmate1 (talk) 02:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the rule is that you can be born on foreign soil, as long as your parents are US citizens. However, I don't think any Presidential candidate has been born in China. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely untrue. You must have been born in the US and be older than 35 to run for President of the United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.156.40.253 (talk) 23:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

George W. Romney? --162.119.232.100 (talk) 18:28, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Stevenson was born in Los Angeles in 1900, he was raised in Illinois. As far as I know he never traveled to China in his lifetime, although his father did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.229.162 (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

First ambassador?

If memory serves me right, Kennedy gave Stevenson the title of ambassador - rather than delegate - to the United Nations as a salve for his failing to get a more powerful post. Before then, every country had delegates to the U.N., not ambassadors; but ambassadorships soon became the rule so no-one would be outranked. Can someone verify this? I did a cursory search on Ixquick and only came up with ambassadors to the U.N., even before 1960, but I suspect this is just a case of mass anachronism. Axel 02:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by AxelHarvey (talk • contribs)

missing subject in article

The article seems to deliberately omit the relationship between Stevenson and Marietta Peabody Tree from coverage. She was his constant companion and sexual partner for many years. She was also with him when he died. The vagueness that is presently in the article about her should be corrected. 174.46.28.58 (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)