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Too much detail[edit]

I have reverted an edit that deleted an election result on the grounds that 'too much detail' was in the article. I don't think 'too much detail' is a valid reason to delete anything. I would be happy to discuss the matter further. Graemp (talk) 06:03, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the results again. The data is already in the constituency article, and doesn't need to be duplicated here, where it overwhelms the text. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the article is currently a stub with little text, some might think that the image of the subject also overwhelms the text. Perhaps the problem is not so much the inclusion of the tables but the lack of text in the article. I will place this article on my to-do-list for expansion, which should ensure overwhelming isn't an issue. Graemp (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you expand it to the extent that the tables fit within the narrative without overwhelming it, then let's review that version. In the meantime they disrupt the flow of the prose.

Per WP:EMBED, Prose is preferred in articles as prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, in a way that a simple list may not. Prose flows, like one person speaking to another. It is best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain.

So I will remove the tables again. As a compromise, you could restore them in a separate section , like I did with Sir Ellis Ellis-Griffith, 1st Baronet. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may have been a bit hasty with that revert as I actually did expand the text as I had indicated to meet the your overwhelming point, so perhaps that should be reviewed as you suggest. I have therefore undone your revertion to make that review easier.Graemp (talk) 19:56, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have reviewed it, and the boxes still overwhelm the narrative, and disrupt the flow of prose. So I have moved them to a separate section.

I notice that a similar discussion is taking place at Talk:Norman Birkett, 1st Baron Birkett, where User:Ironholds notes that these tables disrupt the flow of content. Inline images are handled in such a way that the text flows around them, allowing for a continuous reading experience: these tables clearly are not. They actively break the flow of text. ... and A quick check of other political articles in the same conceptual category (large, with lots of text) shows that the information is either not presented (Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Bonar Law, Winston Churchill, Anthony Eden], Clement Attlee), or presented in its own section]. I agree entirely with Ironholds. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:09, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]