Talk:2024 Yesh Atid leadership election

Is this article notable?

This election doesn't seem particularly notable. It was held via committee and got relatively little coverage before the actual event itself, similar to the 2021 The Jewish Home leadership election. I can't be bothered to do an AFD and we might want to have a discussion beforehand. @David O. Johnson: Totalstgamer (talk) 18:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

@Totalstgamer It was conducted among convention delegates, not committee. SecretName101 (talk) 21:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

That's still a very small voting base, and coverage of this election was still very limited. You reckon it should remain? Totalstgamer (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

@Totalstgamer The small electorate itself doesn't necessarily impact notability. Leadership spills in Australia , for instance, are limited to even smaller electorates (members of the party's parliamentary caucus). And leadership elections with a similarly-small-electorate in Israel have also been noteworthy and consequential before (1965 Mapai leadership election for instance).

The article needs to note more than it does in its current stub-form probably (probably could discuss how the candidates campaigned, what prognosticators expected the result would look like, and any impact on the party's politics the narrowness of the result might have had). But as the second-largest Knesset party, its leadership election probably is of inherent notability. SecretName101 (talk) 22:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think there's really any inherent notability with Israeli party leadership elections, especially for a party with such few elections as Yesh Atid. Ultimately, the election got relatively little coverage, especialy in the before and after. I think i'm convinced it can stay but im still very much on the fence with this article and articles like it. Totalstgamer (talk) 11:32, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

@Totalstgamer I fail to see how the number of previous/subsequent leadership elections something that undermines notability. Yesh Atid is one of the leading Knesset parties, the second largest party of the current Knesset, the main opposition, and consistently the third-highest polling party for the next election. Suffice to say that it is a major enough force in Israeli politics that its leadership elections are of inherent note. As a leading force in its the politics of its nation, its leadership elections have inherent note.

Its current leader is the previous prime minister and current opposition leader.

In all four elections that it stood on its own, it came out one of the top-four performing lists (three of those elections saw it place second behind only Likud (after the 2013 election, it came out with only one less Knesset seat than Likud had, since 13 of the seats for the joint list Likud ran on went to Yisrael Beiteinu). In the three elections that it stood as a part of the Blue & White coalition, it was one of the coalition’s two main components (alongside Gantz’s party), and in the first of those elections Lapid was officially the co-leader of the coalition. The coalition all three times performed strongly, placing a close second twice and first once and winning 33 or more seats each time (with Yesh Atid receiving 13 or more seats each time from those performances). SecretName101 (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The 2021 election of The Jewish Home is not an apt comparison. Yesh Atid is one of the main forces of Knesset politics. The Jewish Home was (by 2021) a dying/nearly-dead extra-parliamentary party that had received no more than 3 seats ever since Naftali Bennett abandoned it to lead his own party; and had not been part of the previous two Knessets. SecretName101 (talk) 08:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)