Talk:Ústredňa Židov

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Article creation note[edit]

This article is a merge of Draft:Ústredňa Židov, and a much smaller article created here earlier today. The revision history contains all revisions of both versions. -- The Anome (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ústredňa Židov/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kaiser matias (talk · contribs) 17:01, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I'll start shortly. Kaiser matias (talk) 17:01, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

  • "...the first leader, Heinrich Schwartz, was removed after refusing to cooperate with Nazi demands." Would it be worth mentioning who replaced Schwartz here? Not saying make the change, more thinking out loud.
    • Done
  • Considering how large the "Departments" section is, I feel some of that should be noted into the lead. I see there is a sentence about retraining, but it seems like there could be a bit more written there.
    • Expanded lede
  • Regarding emigration, is there any tally of how many Jews were able to leave via the UZ? It notes the last group to leave for Palestine, but nothing more.
    • There's no information on this. In total some 5,000 to 6,000 Jews left Slovakia in 1938–1941, but the vast majority of these were gone before the UZ was set up.
  • I also made minor edits switching citations around so they are in numerical order within the text.
    • Thanks!

Not a lot to work on, and like your other articles a comprehensive article on a tough subject. Kaiser matias (talk) 15:37, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I notice the nominator has not been active in over 3 months, so I'm going to fail it for now and clear up the GAC queue. If @Buidhe: comes back and wants to nominate it again, please let me know and I'll be happy to look it over again. Kaiser matias (talk) 20:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ústredňa Židov/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kaiser matias (talk · contribs) 17:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]


As promised during the first nomination, I'll take another look at the article. Kaiser matias (talk) 17:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being slow to review this, just a busy time for me. I have some comments below:
  • "It was formed on the advice of SS officer..." I feel SS should be expanded to "Schutzstaffel (SS)", for those who are unaware of the abbreviation.
    • I think SS is more recognizable than Schutzstaffel, so I put the latter in parenthesis "SS (Schutzstaffel)"
  • "About two-thirds of Jews in Slovakia were Orthodox..." Should link the relevant article for Orthodox.
    • Done
  • "The first Judenrat outside the Reich and German-occupied Poland, ÚŽ was the only secular Jewish organization allowed to exist". Was the UZ the only secular Jewish organization allowed to exist in Slovakia, or all of the Nazi-occupied territories? Would be good to clarify that.
    • Clarified "in Slovakia"
  • "By August, the ÚŽ was providing welfare to 23,877 Jews with 1,500 welfare applications to be considered; this consisted of about 3 Slovak koruna (Ks) daily per adult and 2 Ks per child." I gather 3 Ks per day is not a lot, but is there any way to give context to the value? Even just noting it was low, or (better yet) comparing to the wage of contemporary workers or something.
    • Added note
  • "...61 Jewish schools instructed 7941 children." In most other examples with four digit numbers, an apostrophe is used ("1,300 Jews"; "5,500 Jews") I'd keep it consistent throughout, and ideally use an apostrophe here, and anywhere else.
    • Done
  • Regarding the "Non-Israelites" heading, is that the correct term for Jewish converts to Christianity? Honestly not sure on that.
    • This is the term that Kamenec uses. I imagine it is a literal translation of a Slovak term but I haven't seen the original Slovak version of his book so can't say for sure.
  • "On 29 August, Germany invaded Slovakia..." Include the year here, as it's the first mention of 1944.
    • Done
  • Is there any idea if any UZ Jews survived the Holocaust? Kind of ends on a cliffhanger, so if there is any information that would be good to include.
    • Added some information on this.

Once the above are addressed, will take a quick look, but should be good to go then. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:15, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks again for your comments.
Great, looks good to pass then. Kaiser matias (talk) 17:59, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

cooperate with (...) demands[edit]

Is the phrase correct? I mean language, not facts.Xx236 (talk) 07:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx236, both grammatically and factually correct. (t · c) buidhe 07:41, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]