Draft talk:Wonderland (Pakistani TV series)

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Discussion have moved away from this specific draft and unlikely to be fruitful/constructive. Behaviour issues belong at ANI or other venues. S0091 (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hey User:ToadetteEdit, as you said I've added more sources. Kindly review.182.182.97.3 (talk) 17:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I previously said that I will review it. I will take a look at it. ToadetteEdit! 17:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok IP (if you prefer a name, let me know what you prefer) same exercise here as at Draft talk:Hook (2022 TV series). Please point to two or three sources that meet WP:GNG. Also, thank you for engaging and doing so an civil manner even though I know you are frustrated. S0091 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can call me Cheeku. Here again reference number 1,2,4,6 and 10 I feel are notable enough. Again as I said, as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Pakistani sources. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 17:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only give the three best please. Reviewing sources is time consuming. S0091 (talk) 17:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can choose any from them. I don't know, I'm not sure. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to look at 5 sources or pick randomly. This is your opportunity to show the draft meets WP:GNG. S0091 (talk) 18:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No matter which sources I'll choose you'll decline but let's go with reference 1, 6 and 10. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep your spirits up. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I was just frustrated. Apologies if you felt disrespected. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheeku, you are not being disrespectful. To explain where I am coming from, I want articles to be kept so I do not want to accept a draft under these contentious circumstances that is vulnerable to deletion (i.e. let's make sure no one would even think about nominating for deletion...lock it in.) As for the sources, 1 and 10 are trailers and now for the third time, trailers do not meet WP:GNG. For 6, my anitvirus is tagging it as risky so I can't assess it. @Saqib can you access 6 or familiar with the source? S0091 (talk) 18:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How can it be not notable, you can Google the title of the series and you'll get to know about it. Since it's also covered by IMDb, I find it's notable. Maybe I'm not pointing out sources but there needs to be a detailed review of sources in regard to this specific article. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheeku, please do take the time to read through pages I and others have linked, i.e. WP:IMDB and being popular does not mean 'notable' under Wikipedia's definition. In the interim, another reviewer has determined this does not meet the notability criteria. S0091 (talk) 18:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I'll add more sources and then resubmit. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@S0091 None of these sources from #6 to #15 are WP:RS in the slightest. I mentioned the same thing yesterday on @CNMall41:'s tp if you recall. I repeat, it's not just the coverage that's lacking WP:RS, but the sources themselves. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And what about #1 to #5? Can you please review them too. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These are the sources in Pakistan. Then from where should I find sources, it's quite weird how you guys are not considering articles about the series despite covering the series in details. Almost all the sites are like this in Pakistan so apparently there should not be any article about a TV series from Pakistan, Right? 182.182.97.3 (talk) 18:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not everything in this world, even in Pakistan, deserves a WP page, whether it's popular or not. It's gotta meet WP:GNG and WP:N to earn a spot. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a notable series, you just don't want to accept it. You also have nominated Shuja Asad, just Google him. He's the most trending actor of 2024. So precisely, Wikipedia is monoploid by certain administrators who decide what should and shouldn't be here. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CNMall41 reviewed the sources before they declined and the whole point of me requesting two or three sources is to not have an ongoing back-and-forth about various sources so focus could be given on the best ones, in-line with WP:THREE. S0091 (talk) 19:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No matter how in depth sources I'll provide, you'll decline it. So leave it. Even when you create an article, a pop up appears asking to Google, if there wasn't a notable show, Google won't show anything related to it. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:CNMall41 accuses every other editor to be WP:PAID, I have zero trust and faith in him. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just the editors involved in PAID, especially those using LOUTSOCKing to avoid detection. You have lost the requirement for me to AGF a long time ago so don't expect any sympathy. And, how do you know I accuse editors of such if you are only editing from this IP address? Lol. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No matter, how many sources I'll provide, you won't be convinced so let it be. I don't want to continue editing. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"I don't want to continue editing" - Thank you. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want sympathies, at least not from you. And what's the use of making an account when you can accuse it of being a paid editor and sock? Cause that's what you do here apparently!!! 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have NO sympathy actually. Please stop playing the victim and please stop disrupting Wikipedia with your undisclosed paid editing. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ CNMall41, I bet they'll just pop up with a new IP range, but this time I'll be ready for them at WP:NPP. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I was getting paid, I'd have accepted it happily. But I'm not unfortunately. Let me know if you know someone who pays for editing. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Waft Studios, but you already know that. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And WP:WikiProject Pakistan/Pakistani sources is not very useful for the reason I explained at Hook so I suggest using WP:NPPSG and WP:RSP instead for guides. S0091 (talk) 17:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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