Category talk:Allegorical sculptures in the United States

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It appears to me[edit]

that this category is really any sculpture that contains some allegorical element in them. The statue of Brigadier General Albert Pike, for example is primarily a statue of the guy. it does include an allegorical figure at the base. However (i.e. opinion) I would not call this ensemble an "allegorical sculpture"]. This is true of others here. If having any allegorical component is enough to qualify for including here then there are a lot more to add, but i don't think it is a good idea. I think, with this name, the category should be limited to pieces such as Alma Mater (New York sculpture) rather than the Robert Gould Shaw Memorial which does include one allegorical figure. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 02:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I include the 'allegorical sculpture' category whenever an article's prose mentions any degree of sculpture specifically described as allegorical. I see your point above, but I also think your method could be a bit too subjective. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if you/we want more input here, we might raise the question at WikiProject Sculpture, WikiProject Visual arts, or Category:Allegorical sculpture, since this conversation applies to all sculptures in the parent category. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:33, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly I wanted to talk to you about this, i take your point about "allegorical" being mentioned in the article as being a good one. I might raise the question elsewhere just to see if anyone is listening. I suspect that it will be up to us to decide and i am not pushing hard for any particular outcome. I am very interested in the topic of the use of allegory in sculpture in the USA and it is not often I get to actually discuss it with anyone, which means that I rarely hear an opinion other than my own and I rarely surprise myself any more. Carptrash (talk) 02:38, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I try to be pretty black and white re: categorization, and only add categories that are specifically confirmed by article prose. Therefore, if I see "allegorical" and "sculpture" (or "statue"), I'm adding the "allegorical sculpture" category. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:53, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]