User talk:ToBeFree
There appears to be whitewashing happening here. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Skywatcher68, thanks, I have semi-protected the page for now. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
User talk:2403:4800:9400:6C01:FC81:4C7D:6D75:8C96 block missing[edit]
For some reason the block was missing. Fixed. Cheers! -- Alexf(talk) 12:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Alexf, the /64 is blocked already ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. The individual then doesn't show as blocked in that case. I see. -- Alexf(talk) 01:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, Gadget-markblocked.js sadly doesn't display these as blocked. It was proposed twice in the past at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-markblocked.js, declined for a lack of consensus, and I'd start an RfC for rangeblock support right now if the displaying of IP addresses in revision histories had a future. But temporary accounts are coming, and your heading may be one of the last ones openly referring to an IP address on a talk page. I think cookie-based temporary accounts are a good thing and will make communication with good-faith IPv6 users much easier while not hurting enforcement against bad-faith editors much. But we'll see... ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't know about it. Thanks for the info. -- Alexf(talk) 22:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have a feeling far more people than the WMF expects will be surprised when this arrives on enwiki. No problem. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't know about it. Thanks for the info. -- Alexf(talk) 22:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, Gadget-markblocked.js sadly doesn't display these as blocked. It was proposed twice in the past at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-markblocked.js, declined for a lack of consensus, and I'd start an RfC for rangeblock support right now if the displaying of IP addresses in revision histories had a future. But temporary accounts are coming, and your heading may be one of the last ones openly referring to an IP address on a talk page. I think cookie-based temporary accounts are a good thing and will make communication with good-faith IPv6 users much easier while not hurting enforcement against bad-faith editors much. But we'll see... ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. The individual then doesn't show as blocked in that case. I see. -- Alexf(talk) 01:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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AIV v SPI[edit]
Obvious socks are expensive. People should be encouraged to report ducks to AIV, which I have definitely been doing of late. Izno (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Izno, you had declined two sock reports at AIV, I had declined a third one, for being far from as obvious as the reporter thought. SPI's evidence requirements are valuable and unactionable AIV reports are expensive in their own way, so I personally would prefer if at least Air on White avoided making sock reports at AIV for the time being. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be more careful about reporting socks at AIV, but I'll continue as warranted. I have successfully reported duck socks of blocked vandals and LTAs in the past. Air on White (talk) 00:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Air on White, in most cases, these have probably simply been vandals, and their vandalism was reason enough to place a block. My concern is about reports for behavior that wouldn't justify a block if it wasn't sockpuppetry. Regarding these, the advice at AIV's header applies,
Reports of sockpuppetry should be made at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations unless the connection between the accounts is obvious and disruption is recent and ongoing.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:28, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Air on White, in most cases, these have probably simply been vandals, and their vandalism was reason enough to place a block. My concern is about reports for behavior that wouldn't justify a block if it wasn't sockpuppetry. Regarding these, the advice at AIV's header applies,
- I'll be more careful about reporting socks at AIV, but I'll continue as warranted. I have successfully reported duck socks of blocked vandals and LTAs in the past. Air on White (talk) 00:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
IP-hopper does not like slur details at Jeremy Finlayson[edit]
Maybe 2001:8003:47a2:d301::/64 has a point and that content is WP:UNDUE, I don't know. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's at least a good-faith concern worth a discussion. Thanks, Skywatcher68. I hope 2001:8003:47a2:d301::/64, AutisticAndrew, Bugghost, Electricmaster, Sigma440 and Wiiformii will find a consensus about this at Talk:Jeremy Finlayson. If I understand correctly, the arguments are practically "undue weight" vs. "it's properly cited content", the latter of which does not guarantee inclusion according to WP:ONUS and is thus probably comparatively weak, failing to address the actual concern. Also, two of the reverts explicitly complain about a lack of an explanation; Special:Diff/1227184059 provides one, so I assume Bugghost's concern has been resolved and AutisticAndrew wouldn't have reverted if they had seen the explanation. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with 2001:8003 that the section was probably too long, but overall the main gist of the content should remain - just made shorter with a couple of sources pruned.
- I've opened a section on the talk page about this [6] with a suggested much condensed version of the section. BugGhost🪲👻 01:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I have now invited the others to the section using {{Please see}}. If a consensus is found early, the protection can also be removed earlier; it is currently set to automatically expire in two weeks, pretty pessimistically. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)