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Missing j's in vowel table for pure?[edit]

Under General American, for both tour and pure, the table lists ʊɹ~ɔɹ~oɹ. This seems correct for tour. However, it seems to leave out the [j] sound in pure in General American. Should it say jʊɹ~jɔɹ~joɹ?

Almost every other accent has [j] starting sounds for pure. Abercraf English and Port Talbot English start with [ɪ] instead, but that's similar. And then Cajun English has neither [j] nor [ɪ]; is that also a mistake? Dancor (talk) 09:16, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rosa's roses distinction?[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a row to account for the Rosa's roses contrast/merger. How might this be added? WikiMaster111 (talk) 19:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Columns with lexical sets and examples[edit]

Can we sticky the columns with the lexical sets and examples too? I tried to, but couldn't figure out how to get it to work properly. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 23:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical error in title[edit]

There is more than 1 chart in this article so its title should be International Phonetic Alphabet charts for English dialects rather than the singular chart.

1.126.109.57 (talk) 17:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dialect abbreviations in comments?[edit]

I want to propose the addition of comments to the markup of at least the vowel chart to make it easier to find cells that editors are trying to edit. For example, the first few non-header cell of the vowel chart, which are currently: 

| colspan="2" |ɛː~ɛə̯~eə̯
| colspan="2" | {{IPA|ɪə̯~eə̯~ɛɐ̯}}<ref name="shortatensing" />
| rowspan="4" |{{IPA link|æ}}
| colspan="2" |eə~ɛə

would instead become: 

| colspan="2" |ɛː~ɛə̯~eə̯ <-- AAVE -->
| colspan="2" | {{IPA|ɪə̯~eə̯~ɛɐ̯}}<ref name="shortatensing" /> <-- Boston -->
| rowspan="4" |{{IPA link|æ}} <-- Cajun -->
| colspan="2" |eə~ɛə <-- California -->

or: 

| <-- AAVE --> colspan="2" |ɛː~ɛə̯~eə̯
| <-- Boston --> colspan="2" | {{IPA|ɪə̯~eə̯~ɛɐ̯}}<ref name="shortatensing" />
| <-- Cajun --> rowspan="4" |{{IPA link|æ}}
| <-- California --> colspan="2" |eə~ɛə

As a related but separate proposal, I would find it helpful to include tags indicating the rows with the example word from the rightmost column; the first row, currently |-, would become |- <-- ham --> (or maybe |- <-- HAM -->).

Do other editors think these changes would make the current markup/code easier to use or more difficult? (I would of course volunteer to take on this effort; I'm not trying to propose more work for someone else.) -Literally Satan (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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