Talk:All for You (Janet Jackson song)
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References[edit]
Can we add a references section? "Now I'm all for you like Janet." <-- lyric reference in Taylor Swift's song "Snow on the Beach" from her 2022 album, Midnights. Buffyinfaith (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Buffyinfaith: First of all, there is a "References" section. It's for the citations. Secondly, a simple lyrical allusion does not establish enough notability to mention this in the article. It should only be put in the article if enough attention has been brought to "All for You", i.e. it experiences a resurgence of interest/popularity. See WP:IPC. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 17:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Benmite (talk · contribs) 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Gonna start reviewing this soon! :D benǝʇᴉɯ 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Copyvio check[edit]
According to the detector, 36.7%. Good! benǝʇᴉɯ 18:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Background and development[edit]
- Summarize last two sentences as
Jackson described it as "a very happy album" that was about "the different levels of love"
- Include which album of this this was for her with a source
- MTV News link is dead
- Also no need to use that ref twice in consecutive sentences, remove first use
- The "usually listen to older songs together to find inspiration" sentence is crufty and overlong, change
Before starting a new project, Jackson and her longtime producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis usually listen to older songs together to find inspiration. One of the tracks the producers played for the singer was Change's "The Glow of Love" (1980)"
toJackson's longtime producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis played Change's "The Glow of Love" (1980) for Jackson
with all pipe links
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italo disco band
before Change's name
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with lead vocals by Luther Vandross
- Change
Jackson did not know the song, but Jam wanted to sample it as he used to play it when he was a DJ, and thought it was a perfect fit to Jackson's lyrics for "All for You".
toJackson did not know the song. Jam considered it a fitting sample for "All for You" because of Jackson's lyrics.
- Move
All the girls at the party
sentence to Recording and composition section
- Change
Jam wrote the line "All the girls at the party" after Jackson had done all the vocals for the track, which she appreciated. It originally came in the middle of the number, but it was moved to the beginning after her manager suggested it would be cool if the song started like that.
toJam wrote the song's lyric, "All the girls at the party", to be included in the middle of the song after Jackson finished recording her vocals, but it was later moved to the top of the song at the suggestion of her manager.
- Change
- Change last sentences (
During a photo shoot for a magazine ...
toAfter a photo shoot for a magazine at Jam and Lewis' studio, during which she played the song several times, Jackson told the producers that she wanted to release the track as the lead single from All for You and to be her first song released after being absent from the public eye...
- An explanation for why she was absent from the public eye at the beginning of the section, as well as how long the "extended period of time" was, would be good.
Release[edit]
- Back-to-back use of the same dead MTV News ref again, only needs one at the end of the second sentence.
- Change
and delivered to
toand sent it to
- Move refs 6 and 7 to the end of its sentence
- Move ref 10 to the end of its sentence
- Something should be included about when it was announced that the album would be titled after the single
Recording and composition[edit]
- Is Flyte Tyme Studios owned by Jam and Lewis? If so, include that with a source
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It was written and produced by Jackson and her longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
toIt was written and produced by Jackson, Jam, and Lewis.
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It prominently samples...
to right beforeDue to the sample's...
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italo disco band
from before Change's name
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- Remove comma after
by David Barry
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Jam and Lewis provided
toJam and Lewis played
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while mastered
toand mastered
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- Move
Jackson found it "so beautiful"
and associated ref to first section next to mention of sample, remove everything else from that sentence
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For The Guardian's Michael Cragg, the track simultaneously references the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s decades musically
toAccording to The Guardian's Michael Cragg, the track simultaneously references the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s musically
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, writing in another article for the same publication that it "feels like a throwback to the effortless, loved-up optimism..."
toand was reminiscent of "the effortless, loved-up optimism..."
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For his part,
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a
before"sex jam..."
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noted that the track
towrote that the track
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Lyrically, the song depicts Jackson flirting with a man at a night club ("Got a nice package alright, guess I'm gonna have to ride it tonight") but getting disappointed by his inability to approach her and ask her to dance ("Can't be afraid or keep me waiting too long, before you know it I'll be outta here, I'll be gone").
benǝʇᴉɯ 18:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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commented that
towrote that
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wrote on
towrote in
,what it
tothat it
,said it
towrote that it
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as well as the singer's...
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Jackson based the lyrics on her experiences seeing people at clubs who were attracted to her but too intimidated to approach her, which she described as "pretty funny".
Critical reception[edit]
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... Clash commented that
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easily
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part of
toone of
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beating heart of the album
tobeating heart of [All for You]
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swirling
toswirl[ing]
per ref
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In a similar opinion,
- Add
"All for You" demonstrated how
betweenopined that...
and...Jackson was
- Add pipe to Wall of Sound
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felt that it employs
towrote that it employs
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For Cyd Jaymes from Dotmusic, "All for You" was a
toCyd James of Dotmusic described "All for You" as a
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and no mistake missus...
- Remove
noted that Jackson's joyride was "near-tangible" on the song
, changeand was
todescribed "All for You" as
- Replace comma with period after
'80s-retro collage"
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[from All for You]
afterto the '70s
- New paragraph starting with Browne review
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from the same publication
to, also for Entertainment Weekly,
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- Change
also noted the song
toalso wrote that the song
benǝʇᴉɯ 19:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Move ref 36 to the end of the sentence benǝʇᴉɯ 23:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Change
For Cyd Jaymes from Dotmusic,
toCyd James from Dotmusic wrote that
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"...R&B"
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as well as
toand
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Jackson's joyride was "near-tangible" on ...and
(confusing wording)
- Change both instances of
noted
towrote
or another word (MOS:WTW)
- Change comma right before ref 40 to a period
- Move ref 18 to the end of this sentence
- Change
, classifying the track as
toand
- Add
[from All for You]
afterto the '70s
- Add commas before and after
from the same publication
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from
tofor
- Change
- Add
also
beforecalling it
- Remove comma before
but "the atmosphere..."
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in comparison
tocompared
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he
beforefelt that
- Change
, writing that he loves the way that Jackson sings
toand praised her singing on the song
benǝʇᴉɯ 19:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Commercial performance[edit]
- In image caption, add {{tquote|by
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made radio airplay history, as it
(redundant)
- Remove Lady Gaga sentence (source only mentions the placement of "All for You" on the Radio Songs chart)
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a single that was not commercially available
toan airplay-only single
- Change
, as well as the highest entry
toand the highest debut
- Move
of the decade
behindby a female artist
benǝʇᴉɯ 19:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikibreak[edit]
@11JORN: I see on your talk page that you're taking a wikibreak, so I'm not sure if you're available to respond to the edits I've made thus far. I'll give it a week and some change to see if there's a response and then continue making suggestions. benǝʇᴉɯ 20:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Benmite Hey there! Recently, I actually manage to do some GAR edits and incorporated some of the recommendations above. I'd be more than happy to help assist @11JORN in regards to completing the GAR on their behalf. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 22:07, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's great, thanks Dcdiehardfan! benǝʇᴉɯ 19:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Final comments[edit]
I'm going to fail this one for now, mostly due to inactivity. I should have been more diligent with having things suggested on time, though I think once the nominator is back from their break, it should be okay to be renominated and I can finish the edits. benǝʇᴉɯ 00:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Benmite, don't forget to submit this and any other reviews you did this month to the backlog drive! -- asilvering (talk) 00:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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