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Original Research on Generation X

Regarding your edit here: [1] to the Generation X article, you added a source from the US Census Bureau, but your reference link redirects to here: [2] which is basically a Help page with no information on the Baby boomers or Generation X, so you'll have to find another source for that sentence, especially the "and other US Federal agencies" part. But speaking of that sentence, you stated in your edit summary that "The Census bureau defines ONE (and only one) generation: Baby Boomers." So why are you adding it to the Generation X article anyways? Someone963852 (talk) 03:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

This is the correct link. https://ask.census.gov/prweb/PRServletCustom?pyActivity=pyMobileSnapStart&ArticleID=KCP-2569 I saw an interview with a Census bureau official in which they said the only generation that they define is Baby Boomers. I don't have the source for that and am not sure it is online, so I just put it in the message.

I added this info to GenX because in reality all of the news and research agencies are basing their starting point on the government's Baby Boomer ending point. I get that that's kind of a truism for me, and I understand your earlier comments so I tried to word around it. I know this because I'm a marketing prof and the generations are quite a big deal in marketing.

Also regarding the same edit you made [3], please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:No original research. The sentence that you added: "However a number of authors have defined Generation X using sociological differences rather than fertility." is Original Research, because it claims that the researchers or companies in the previous paragraphs are using those date ranges due to "fertility" reasons, which you don't even know if they did or not because the sources don't even state that. Someone963852 (talk) 04:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

They are using it for fertility reasons as the name itself refers to a literal Baby Boom--i.e. a lot more kids born during a one period than another period. You can compare here: https://www.infoplease.com/us/births/live-births-and-birth-rates-year

As you can see it refers to the years after the war that had a birth rate above 20.0 per 1000. The other authors (after the laundry list) are addressing the issue that this is not a group of people that is sociologically the same--like the other generations are. For example, GenX used to be called the Baby Busters, but was redefined as GenX because they had similar outlooks and life experiences. The authors that have actually thought about the situation have made the point that the fact that the Baby Boomer group that has a birthrate above 20 per 1000 doesn't equate to sociological similarity and they have redefined the group slightly. But (unfortunately I suppose) they kept the same name that the government uses for "a large birth rate year" that is otherwise meaningless while GenX, Millennials and GenZ are not defined by birth rate. This is the point that I am trying to get across.