Talk:Battletoads (1991 video game)/Archive 1

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Quality assessment

I have rated the article as C-Class. I did not do a full B-Class assessment but only looked for compliance with WP:MINREF. Statements such as "There is also a game-breaking bug present in level 10, Rat Race." are clearly contentious and require an inline citation. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:46, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

This article is not a C-class article. It already had numerous problems when it was rated as such, esspecially since all the content was simply copied from existing articles. I've gone and removed a lot of the offending content (plagiarism from the NES manual, full paragraphs of pure cruft and editorial comments). Until the article is actually a C-class article (and not on the way to being so) I'm dropping the rating back down to Start-class. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 06:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

No Rat Race in Amiga version?

I was just watching a runthrough of the Amiga CD32 version of the game and it most certainly has Rat Race in it. Why does the article state otherwise? Was there a different version of the game released? (The video can be found on YouTube but its link is blacklisted by Wikipedia's servers. Search "Amiga Longplay Battletoads" and navigate to 45:28.) 129.65.141.172 (talk) 20:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I just watched a video of the Game Gear version, and *it* seems to be the one lacking Rat Race (along with the Intruder Excluder and Terra Tubes). I will update the article accordingly. 129.65.141.172 (talk) 21:01, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Retro Gamer 125 has a big feature on making of the game

--TRIGGERWARNING (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

IP's Edits

User:185.34.28.184, you seem to be adding what appears to be unverified, POV information. If you think your edits should stay, please explain why so we can converse. Weegeerunner (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

WHat "POV information"? In fact I was adding nothing but an internal link to the Battletoads#Cartoon. And someone's obsessively adding "citation needed" - citation for what? Someone's also reverting me removals of media= and repeating categopries from the main category (and they're even adding back Category:Animal superheroes), and now says I'm "adding" "adding what appears to be unverified, POV information" by removing stuff?? --185.34.28.184 (talk) 08:32, 27 May 2015 (UTC) And here's a "citation" that was so "needed": http://www.tv.com/shows/battletoads/ and http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/47607-BattleToads and the cartoon can be even watched on YouTube if anyone still somehow doubts its "unverified, POV" existence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRMunEPAYg --185.34.28.184 (talk) 08:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

DOS

Be warned, some abandonware sites simply bundle the BT/BTDD NES ROM with a DOS emulator and a batch, call it a "DOS port" and upload it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.173.12.68 (talk) 21:48, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Genesis and Mega Drive?

Because this is the English Wikipedia, wouldn't it make sense to add the Genesis to the article instead of JUST the Mega Drive? Firework917 (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: AdrianGamer (talk · contribs) 08:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


  • with critics praising the graphics and unique variations of gameplay - remove "unique" for consistency
  • Done JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It won six categories from the 1991 - Instead of "categories", "awards" is much more straightforward.
  • Done JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The game is a scrolling beat 'em up video game - The lead mentioned it as a "platform game". It should be mentioned again here as well.
  • Added JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • continues after reaching a game over. - Changes it to "after players die/get defeated"
  • Done JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • are presented with no depth - What does this mean?
  • Graphical language. I've rephrased to "isometric" JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I do not think mentioning the features of all levels is necessary. I suggest to trim it down a bit.
  • Trimmed JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • a climbing/jumping "snake maze" - don't use "/"
  • Removed JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • tower before an opposing rat does. - "rat" should not be mentioned here. Change it to simply "opponent"
  • Done JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The player or players, choose one.
  • Fixed JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • To create a contrast to the popular media franchise, Rare added extra mechanics in the game to help separate it from similarly themed "beat 'em ups" - These extra mechanics are added because they wanted to create a contrast to the TMNT franchise, to separate it with other similar themed games, or both?
  • Only the latter, clarified JAGUAR  19:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • however as the game gradually became more "graphic" - What is the meaning of "graphic" here?
  • Battletoads has been ported for various consoles upon its original June 1991 release for the NES - Do not use short form here. You should also wikilink NES.
  • Done JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Ports for PC DOS and the Atari ST were planned by Mindscape but never released - Is there a reason for this?
  • I couldn't find any reason why the ports were cancelled, I even tried searching through unreliable sources to find a reason but I found nothing. Usually ports are cancelled due to the consoles themselves not selling well (and how much of the market they owned), but still I wouldn't like to insinuate this in the article with nothing to back it up. If you think it's best, I could remove it? JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The Mega Drive version of Battletoads features all of the levels, music and animations from the original, albeit with "toned down" difficulty. - Do not think this example is good. It does not provide any additional information. The previous sentence has already mentioned that all the ports are doing the same.
  • I agree. I've rephrased this to make it sound less factual JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • owing to Rare's acquisition by Microsoft. - It is not really a reason that led to the release of Rare Replay.
  • Rephrased JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The co-op bug in the 11th level of the game, where player two's controller stopped working, has been fixed in this version. - People who are not familiar with the game would not understand what this means. I suggest to rephrase it to "Several bugs featured in the original release were fixed in Rare Replay."
  • Done, thanks JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • In the same review, Paul Rand of CVG similarly - "from CVG" is no longer necessary, since you have mentioned "in the same review" already. You can also choose to rephrase it to "Paul Rand, another reviewer from CVG,"
  • Rephrased JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Rand heralded the "put-together" gameplay as addictive - What is "put-together"? What he is referring to?
  • I'm not sure myself, I didn't think he was very clear in his review (some reviewers of the 80s/early 90s really had no editorial standards. In some cases I've actually had to guess what they were trying to say about the game). I've just cut "put-together", but I think he was trying to say that the gameplay had a lot of different variations in it JAGUAR  19:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • You can create a subsection called "Awards"
  • Done JAGUAR  19:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I suggest to paraphrase some of the quotes in the difficulty section.
  • This section was always a pain. I've done a few copyedits JAGUAR  19:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Spike's Ending list is not really related to the game's difficulty. I suggest to move it somewhere in the main critical reception part.
  • Moved (and rephrased) JAGUAR  19:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Wow, I've never used that tool before! That's handy. I've done some copyediting here and there, but it seems that it picked up the plot from being similar to a source, which should be fine considering it's a plot and doesn't require a source. Retrogames is a Wiki-clone and I think that's why it explains it JAGUAR  19:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Source 13 needs to have its author, work, date and accessdate field filled.
  • Done JAGUAR  19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Who published source 34?
  • I looked everywhere, but there is no author given. The only thing I could do when adding this ref was to allocate the publisher to Virgin Media JAGUAR  19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The author field of source 35 need to be filled.
  • Done JAGUAR  19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Source 37's Spike should not be capitalized.
  • Fixed JAGUAR  19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Updated FUR JAGUAR  19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list corporation:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Article is well-written and comprehensive. There is only some minor issues. When you have addressed all the issues it should be good to go. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the review AdrianGamer! I've attempted to address all of your concerns, and I hope I didn't leave anything out. The one thing that bothered me was not finding a reason why the Atari ST port was shelved, but where such information cannot be found I just leave it as it is. If there is anything else I can do, please let me know. Thanks again! JAGUAR  19:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for addressing all the issues so quickly. Battletoads (video game) is now a Congratulations. AdrianGamer (talk) 02:12, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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